Should Dural become a toned competitive character?

There are alot of games that have boss characters that are playable, all the way from ST, KoF, NGBC, and even KI. Some of them still keep their overpowered status (KoFMI minus Duke's counter super but still op, SC4, CvS2), and others are toned down so that they become playable, and are even accepted in tournaments (SF4, NGBC except Goodman, KoFNW).

I believe VF is the only game that has kept their boss "playable", but still unaccessable except on console once unlocked, and even then, she's not an "acceptable" character in tournaments due to her being "perfect" as in op... Seeing as VF5FS has alot of changes both in its appearance and system, would it be a good actual addition if Dural was an actual playable character like Seth in SF4??? I personally wish she was as accessible as other playable boss characters are, except obviously tone her down so that she can be used without feeling "cheap" for lack of a better word... Even having 2 different versions of Dural with one being a character that someone can use competitively would be kinda cool... It would also be interesting to see how she would do if she were placed in say somewhere between B and C tier, as "most" boss characters in other games I've played are in that tier range (except Goodman, Krauser, Omega Rugal, Shin Gouki, Bai-Fu, and a few others)...

Again, I am aware that anyone can play her in arcade and vs mode once unlocked, but it would be interesting to see what items she would have in quest mode, and see how many people would actually pick her up in competitive play... Any thoughts/ideas??? I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed in a previous thread...

 

I have played Dural in all VFs and I already know how crazy she is, that's why I was saying having a "toned down" version of her would be a great addition... I would like to see some different moves from her that make her stand out... She should also have some of those "mimic" moves toned down... The way I see it, she doesn't have to be a Mokujin to be Dural... At the same time, Dural doesn't always have to be broken in every VF... Her not having certain things doesn't make her less of a boss character or a VF character for that matter... Jeffry doesn't have a stand-alone Splash Mountain anymore, but he's still Jeffry... Kage was known for his TFT and the fact that he's a ninja, and TFT was modified so much that setups for that move changed, but he's still Kage... Character change isn't always a bad thing... It worked out for Iori in KOFXII, and he's even better in KOFXIII...

Seth has some of the best SF moves, and he has some of his own that make him stand out as his own character... If Dural had somewhat of an expanded movelist with a few "mimic" moves with toned down properties and damage, and a bunch of her very own moves, she could stand out. She could still be the heaviest character, but change the damage scaling on her (like Gouki/Seth). That way, there's still a chance to do damage and win, even though she's a heavy female character...

 

Imho Dural is a challenge. She has to stay like she is right now a broken character.
But make her a playble character will change vf and make it more similar to Tekken series. If you wanna play a robot, there's gun jack, bryan, yoshimitsu, alisa waiting for you
Actually i think VF needs to keep his identity as Beat Em Up with only human and real tecniques.

 

I'm sorry, a bunch of Kage's moves aren't real techniques, especially the new moves they gave him... And heavy pounces that allow you to jump 10+ feet in the air is not real...

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VF is already like Tekken. They share similar stuns and bounds as well as air juggles and wall combos... VF has better defensive options and allows the player to turn the tides without the need of a rage mode... Kage has a cybernetic outfit and Jeffry has Custom Robo-esque items with a cannon... That's just as close as a robot... Plus Dural is already available in arcade and vs modes, so its more like "if you want to play a 'balanced' or 'low tier' robot, then play Tekken"...

 

I say make a new character.

 

TBH i dont even know why they let that guy in the vid play dural more than once. its stupid. its a con.

dural should be kept as it is, and win or lose you just need to see her once.

besides... a cheating AI would need no broken moves. it would escape every throw and fuzzy everything. and do max damage without fail...so who cares about that?

 

fuzzy everything?

What about delayed moves?

if it chose the "correct" course of action at every turn it would be really easy to beat.

 

Even if they had to make another "version" or a "somewhat defective" Dural it would be kinda cool... I mean Duke in KOFMI has 2 versions, with the playable one being toned down. All of the bosses in NGBC have 2 versions also. You can change the weight and the appearance or whatever else needed... Hell, you can even change the name slightly...

I mean what good is having a character in a game where you can only play with them in casuals and nothing else??? You can't practice with them, nor can you go in a forum and discuss matchups and setups, because they're too broken to even be considered playable (so with that said, VF can't be really considered a balanced game, per sé)...

People like boss characters. Think about all of the bosses in the MK series and how they all eventually became playable, even if it took a few versions for it to happen, it still did... A bunch of Capcom games have playable bosses. Even Fighting Vipers had a playable boss... Bowser and Ganondorf are playable in Smash Bros... Dio and Shadow Dio were playable in JJBA and they both weren't nowhere near Petshop's broken status, and Petshop wasn't even a boss, nor needed unlocking to play him!!!

 

Even if Dural kept the best moves, she can still have less damage as a start to balancing her...

I guess Sega could make another character, but they don't do enough of that... They've got alot of characters they could work with storywise in both the game, and the anime. Sega already owes us at least 1 new character imo. I don't count returnees as new characters...

And as far as being stronger than 90% of bosses, I'm not too sure of that... Maybe 70-80%, but nothing more than that... Algol (before the patch) gave a whole new meaning to the word "boss"... But that's just my opinion...

 

Goro and Kintaro never became playable.

 

In MK Trilogy they were, and in MK Armageddon, both also were playable.

 

Gill(SF3) is playable on console and no one ever bothers to pick him unless to show him in combo videos.

Dural doesn't need to be taken seriously imo.

 

Oh consoles, gotcha only console fighters I played were post vf5,I say new character or bust. I always found dural to be bland anyway

 

They would have to completely change her moves. She could still do cool stuff but on paper it shouldn't be amazing.

If I can customize her to have just a huge afro, I'm good. Just a humongous afro.