Shun: Ask a Question, Get an Answer

This thread is for all questions on playing Shun. If you are a new player, please refer to the Wiki and Combo sections at the top of the site firstly, as well as the Shun Resources Thread:

Wiki - http://virtuafighter.com/wiki/shun/
Combo list - http://virtuafighter.com/combos/list?ver=5fsa&chara=shun
Shun Resources Thread - http://virtuafighter.com/threads/shun-resources-thread.19828/

Any questions are welcome, for example:

- I keep getting beat out by X move or character, what do I do?
- What is the best way to use X move,
- General strategy questions.
- General Shun drinking questions.

Ask away!

 

Yes it does crush lows - Buuutttt from memory it's active frames are very late (personally I wouldn't use it). The best special high moves have immediate active frames so you can crush lows without worrying about timing.

There's not much you can do to completely beat out a low attack. or are quick and can counter the attack, or maybe for spacing.

If they are at quite a long range then use . But generally when you're in stance Shun isn't very mobile, so you have to decide how to proceed quickly. And that will mean deciding between using his forward roll which is long range, or any of his other attacks which are short range - There aren't any attacks in-between these ranges so spacing is important.

 

You can only really crush lows when shun's feet are facing the opponent. And even then, since the move is high, it's no guarantee your opponent will be standing in time to take the hit. I agree with Chill that spacing is probably your better option.

 

I'm pretty sure it's possible to do the () uppercut to launch for a combo after executing the catch throw from Oushin. The uppercut actually reaches the opponent although it may not look like it on screen.

Kruza

 

Yeah Chouwan is the 'go-to' launcher after catch throw.

You might have already noticed this but there is a different advantage depending whether Shun is in the back-turned Oushin stance or his normal Oushin stance.

So his normal (feet towards) throw is +16, and his BT (head towards) is +20. Both will guarantee a Chouwan and combo, but if you don't have +6 drinks your options will differ:

For BT Oushin throw you have enough advantage to hit with or for a combo.

For normal Oushin throw there isn't enough advantage for a launcher. But -> (from Choukarou) is a guaranteed sequence. At +4 drinks you can do from Choukarou for an extra hit.

 

Near a wall 46P+K on NH guarantees P+K, K, P nonsense which can hit for 120+ dmg. Not sure if it's strugglable, since the wall.

Oh yes 46P+K has lots of + frames. On NH it's +15 guarantees CHOU P and turns opponent BT. On block it's +6 so P+K series or K (CH launcher) are options that beat even fastest attacks.

 

Highest damage combos here come from 6K+G, PP4P series, but not all Ps necessarily hit against everyone.

 

I agree FT OUS is the best situation for fishing for OUS P+K.
Doing 9K on block gives +5 OUS and allows for most other OUS craziness too. One can try 9P+K on block for BT OUS but it's much less consistent.
Waiting just a little while usually does the trick after 9K to OUS. Works against standing P too. KPK is much more consistent though in OUS and in BT OUS from 9P+K doing K the OUS Mule Kick crushes both P and 2P.

I'd like to add evading after a blocked P works against 2P and K+G beats 2P here and is not very counterable.

 

@Chill Hello, I'm new to the forums and i wanted to point out that in the VF3tb Shun Di command list the Flipover Mule Kick is on the wrong place, this is Handstand Position move but for some reason it's on the throws section.
I was wondering if you could fix this.
Thanks for taking the time to read this message.

 

G'day @Thesch28 !

Unfortunately I can't edit the command lists, only the combos

Maybe post up in The Vault, and one of the VFDC moderators can change it.

https://virtuafighter.com/forums/the-vault.61/

 

Всем привет!

Как в перерывах между раундами выпить 3 напитка с Шуном вместо одного?

 

Either beat the opponent with //A wall slump/etc. and before the time ends do , or do and then mash (doing the latter should get you 4).