Shuns P+K, K attack

I've been experimenting a bit with this move...such as b, f+pp, P+K, K....
what are some other uses for this move besides an awkward counter?

 

I know P+K, K can be used in combos such as Taka only combo: d/f+P+G, bd/f+P, f+N+P, P+K, K.

 

Re: Shuns P K, K attack

I don't use P K, K as a followup to b, f P, P much at all....

For me, there are a lot of options with b, f P, P (or simply one punch is actually good too, sometimes better I think) and I just wouldn't use P K, K much... not my style... I'm no Shun expert though.

I don't really use P K, K much until Shun is quite drunk... However, I prefer his low Kick (db K or d K in some combos)--> fall, or low Kick --> high kick --> fall options.

Back to b, f PP... There are just plenty of options that I think are better.... If you want to get drunk, you can go for a throw (Standard throw or SE) or f P K or even show up your opponent if he does't catch on and take a sip. Flowchart situation anyways. You can go for the uncounterable Chouwan. You can go for low kick flowcharts (what I like to call "bitch Shun"), sidekick flowcharts, df P, etc... It all depends on what you think your opponent will do... but I just haven't found a good reason to use P K, K as a followup... Maybe I haven't advanced my Shun at all to a decent level or anything... but P K, K seems to keep you on the ground for quite a while so I usually do it when it's part of certain combos like lying down-->K, P, K or something. One thing I do enjoy doing (and this is against newbies/beginner/intermediate players) against aggressive or at least non-retreating opponents is go for the TAPoD (Turn Away Punch of Doom for those that forgot) following the quick mini-punches. Anyways, there are flowcharts on the web (I think the Ki Nam faq as well as a recent 1999 made faq have quite a bit to say on following b, f P,P).

Again... I don't really like using P K, K except in combos built for it like df P, P K, K or the lying down combo. However, if you find a good way to use it, don't let me discourage you from using it. I just think that in most situations I find it disadvantageous to use it... You seem to lose time for any of your goals if they are at least offensive... You reduce the amount you can drink... and you reduce the amount you can play any offensive role... but perhaps that is the point of using that move... But in cases where you want to keep an advantage by being on the ground and wasting time, I find the low kick variations to fall on the ground as better options. Unless you really want to be faceup after the fall.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention... A situation I do enjoy using P K, K or at least P K is when Shun's back is turned. For those opponents that love to throw when your backside is at them. However, I do it mostly for fun. I think Shun has better options (such as the TA throw--which has got some nice range for a throw imo).

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by Chanchai on 11/16/00 04:41 PM.</FONT></P>

 

Re: Shuns P K, K attack

Yea i notice Nelson doesn't use P+K, K until shuns' drunk...but that last kick on counter hit is quite deafening.

-sa

 

Okay myke, yer right...that combo isn't righ anyway LOL...
it's d/f+P+G, qcf+P, b+P, P+K,K i have no idea what i was thinking before lol
and i meant neutral

-sa

 

its wrong again...


<font color=red>PICCOLO</font color=red>

 

Doh I give up

-sa