Simplified Vanessa Combo List

S2W: Stomach to Wall
B2W: Back to Wall

L:Light
M:Medium
H:Heavy
T:Taka
A:All (if Taka's an exception, he'll be listed as well)


DS

+

L +>+>
M, H +>+>
T +>

Stomach Crumple (44K+G & Intruder Hook)

L >+>
L+M >+>
H >
T

+ CH

A >
T

Side crumple (swap to OS)(Side to cause crumple)

L, M, H +> >+>
T +>

S2W

+>+ combo
+>>side crumple combo

B2W

+>+
+>+ (BW nitaku situation)

Near wall + combos: end with to land after.


OS

+

L >
M >
H >
T



L, M >
H >+>
T +>



L >
M, H >+>+
T +>

CH

L +>>
M, H, T +>

Stomach Crumple (P3P ch, 44K+G, 41236+P)
(delay after , fast on +)

A >+>
T +

CH

L, M
H
T Impossiburu

S2W

Nothing

B2W

>+ Side Crumple combo
>+ combo

Near wall:

1. et a wallsplat (+) or Float into + when farther ( + or +)
2. Bounce back (+)
3. Float ()
4. High wallsplat (+)
5. Catch them before they recover ()

You can get a wallsplat after heavy wall staggers. Small wall staggers should be followed by +, or reset into mixups (OM + might work for example)

Side crumple (side + to cause crumple)

L, M, H +> >+>
T +>

 

nice breakdown ribx. this will help make things easier.

 

Agreed. I appreciate it Ribx. It's a good place for me to start.

 

Re-formatted for the new forum code.
Also had to cut off the initial text since the new forum code didn't allow me to post the entire thing (max characters reached due to coloring weight classes).

 

Cool, thanks for the effort

 

Double thanks, for the list and for converting to the new forum formatting! You're missing a couple of combo starters though. You could add them for the sake of completion:

DS foot crumple (i think it's d+p > k,k for everybody?)
DS , and slam (same as b+p+k CH?)
DS slam (just in case there's an input error for )
DS jump ...flop combo i guess? (no clue, i only manage to connect k,k)
OS ...again, i don't know how to describe this (d+k,p,k seems to work on everyone)
OS , face slam (f,f+k,p?)
OS slam (identical to OS ?)
OS down (k,p,p?)
OS HCF stomach crumple (not mentioned in OS stomach crumple) (btw you could also mention which moves yield stomach crumple from DS)

I might be missing a couple myself, Vanessa's movelist is so long

 

I was like "...what?" but then I remembered that it did happen to me, once so far.

I really don't care much about combos so I won't bother going in game to verify, but I think is guaranteed after the first one.
After the second one, I think it works as well if you're close enough, otherwise might work at all range and yield an awesome 5 damage or so.
Again I don't care much about combos.
I almost never use these attacks, and the only time I use + is after an OM for frame advantage on block, which nobody expects.

 

DS1P+K ch combo is cool and easy. Also pretty reliable.

But the rest of the stuff I rarely ever see japanese Vanes using, and even when they do, it's too rare to be considered "standard". I'd rather keep the combo list as short as possible. If ace sent me that huge combo list, it's because those combos are the main ones.

There are many other combos possible from several different starters, but they tend to be rarely used and not that important.

OS 3P always grants said followup, but really... That move is mostly used post juggle on Eileen or Aoi post 9K ch, or after certain combos near the wall, in order to refloat. Other than that, it rarely sees enough usage as a mid, when compared to 6_K that it should deserve its own section for beginners to look at.

I'll fix a few other things though.

 

Thanks dude!

 

Once you guys get the correct frame data for the 4P CH there are more combos that can be added to DS list.

 

Steelbaz is right, that one slipped under my radar It's my fault for not using the VFdc command lists. In my defense though, i did mention that, Vanessa's movelist being so long, i was bound to be missing a couple myself

In fact Steelbaz confirmed the following combos on the shoutbox:
DS CH > stagger
DS side CH > >

Pretty simplified to me

What about DS side NH? Is , guaranteed? Does it require using the , input? I'd test but i'm supposed to be translating an article

 

Haven't tested it yet, you should give it a try and let us know if it works!! If I find more stuff i'll be sure to add it, really liking Vanessa a lot!

 

4P ch side combo is in the advanced list.

I haven't touched VF in a while and don't plan to, so if someone wants to pick up the torch when the character specialist status gets implemented, and fiddle with the first posts on both threads, go right ahead.

 

Hey guys, I'm just getting back into VF5 now that I was able to pick up FS, and I've got a question about Vanessa's combos.

When I go for the 3KK ender, I end up getting her Down Attack. So I've been doing 66KP instead (which sucks as an ender ). Am I just going too slow, or what?

 

I'm not a Vanessa player, but I sure holding 3 instead of tapping it will fix that issue.

 

Another alternative to is OS .

 

You ve got many choices, you can end with 3kk but you have to hold 3 before pressing kk...
Instead of this move you ve got P+K P / P+K K / 3P+K K / 66KP / in close position (i m not sure that is the real name of this position, in fact this position is when you see your back and his front or inversly) you can finish with 2K P K / In open position ( is when you see the both back) you can finish with K P K

 

Simplified combo for OS stomach crumples should be > > .

It does the exact same damage (+24) and has an easier input.

 

and against wolf or jeffry 2P 6PPK

 

Yeah holding 3 fixed the issue. But I'm liking the P+KK ender more.
66KP lets them tech right after the P, and I don't think I'm at advantage then

Thanks for the surprisingly quick response guys lol