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Soon we'll have more people here asking questions.

Discussion in 'Junky's Jungle' started by replicant, Mar 9, 2003.

  1. replicant

    replicant Well-Known Member

    Last night various pirate groups released VF4e on 0-Day and iRC and this evening they will hit the newsgroups. Not the way most people want fans, but I think we will see more people here asking questions. Especially, as they will probably ask them on Gamefaqs.com and we point them here for good information.
     
  2. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    That can only be a good thing, RIGHT.
     
  3. replicant

    replicant Well-Known Member

    From experience at first it is a bad thing, but gradually it becomes a good thing. Just get ready for GE, Fishie, and Bungle to yell at people for their inability to use a search engine. /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
  4. Fishie

    Fishie Well-Known Member

    You better believe it baby.
     
  5. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Dont seem like it's worked yet.
     
  6. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    yawwwwn.

    GE
    <font color="green"> don't cross my bridge or I'll eat you</font>
     
  7. Zero-chan

    Zero-chan Well-Known Member

    Anyone pirating VF4E that comes here asking me for assistance will promptly be told where to shove that mod box of theirs.
     
  8. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

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    Zero-chan said:

    Anyone pirating VF4E that comes here asking me for assistance will promptly be told where to shove that mod box of theirs.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    How can you be so ignorant? You don't need a mod chip to play pirated games. You do, however, need one to play a legit imported copy. I learned that the hard way. That's video game companies for you...

    Not that I condone piracy, but come on, get real.
     
  9. krayzeejl

    krayzeejl Well-Known Member

    Cygnus = tieTYT???
     
  10. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    krayzeejl said:

    Cygnus = tieTYT???

    [/ QUOTE ]

    No.
     
  11. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    You wanna hear an accurate description of ignorant? Ignorant is a guy who's been sitting on VFDC for a year who wastes one of his 15 posting opportunities to insult the intelligence of a longtime board member and moderator. Get a fucking clue, if Zero-chan doesn't strike you as sufficiently wired in the whole mod-vs-knife-swap-vs-fliptop thing, it's because she's made it clear she doesn't pirate games and doesn't like people who do.

    And by the way, the "I don't condone piracy" bit? Not buying it. If you want to make excuses for doing it, go right ahead, but at least be honest with yourself and the rest of us over it. I was drooling over the VF4 rip when it came out because I wanted to play at the same time as the rest of the world, not months later. When it was released in the US I dutifully purchased a copy. Your point about the stupidity of the licensing and import lockouts we have to deal with on the PS2 is a good one, but the way you expressed it was unnecessarily insulting.
     
  12. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

    Wooooah!! You're cuttin' deep there, buddy!

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    CreeD said:

    ...a longtime board member and moderator.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I'm not stupid, I know that Zero is one of the more prominent figures on these boards, but I can't stand it when people try to make witty comments that make them look like an ass. I don't give a shit how many posts one has made or what status they hold. Sorry if I was a little pissed at the time.

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    CreeD said:

    And by the way, the "I don't condone piracy" bit? Not buying it... ...but at least be honest with yourself and the rest of us over it.

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    No, I do not condone piracy. It trivializes the work, skill, knowledge, and effort that game devs put into their work, and therefore is wrong. I do, however, download and burn quite a few games, many of which I do not end up purchasing. So, yes, I am a criminal, I steal products from individuals who depend on the profits from those products to help them earn a living while doing what they love. But I do it anyway because I'm a bastard.

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    CreeD said:

    I was drooling over the VF4 rip when it came out because I wanted to play at the same time as the rest of the world, not months later.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    So was I. Japanese VF4 was the game that prompted me to start looking into piracy.

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    CreeD said:

    When it was released in the US I dutifully purchased a copy.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    As did I.

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    CreeD said:

    Your point about the stupidity of the licensing and import lockouts we have to deal with on the PS2 is a good one, but the way you expressed it was unnecessarily insulting.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Sorry.
     
  13. MechaShiva

    MechaShiva Well-Known Member

    (from Cambridge International Dictionary of English)

    condone
    verb [T]
    to approve of (behaviour that some people consider wrong) so that such behaviour is encouraged to happen again in the future

    To say you do it, but don't condone is ridiculous!
     
  14. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    schadevf4 said:

    To say you do it, but don't condone is ridiculous!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    It's like when your parents tell you not to smoke when they do it themselves! Rediculous!

    What I'm saying is, I acknowledge that it is wrong, but it still do it.
     
  15. replicant

    replicant Well-Known Member

    Whether you are for or against piracy in any form is your own personal decision. The fact is that VF4e is about to be released in Japan, has been mentioned to be in the works for EUR, and hasn't been mentioned at all for a US release. Many people are going to import and pirate VF4e in the US and associated territories. More than likely if you get the import version or download it off the net you are not going to be very sure to buy the game when it becomes available in your country. You're both potentially denying money from the people you claim to support. Don't yell at each other on this. You're both just as guilty.<shrug>
     
  16. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    replicant said:

    The fact is that VF4e is about to be released in Japan, has been mentioned to be in the works for EUR, and hasn't been mentioned at all for a US release.

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    This has actually got me kind of scared... Shenmue 2, anyone?

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    replicant said:

    you are not going to be very sure to buy the game when it becomes available in your country.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Oh, I WILL purchase a copy! For sure!
     
  17. MechaShiva

    MechaShiva Well-Known Member

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    replicant said:

    You're both potentially denying money from the people you claim to support. Don't yell at each other on this. You're both just as guilty.<shrug>

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    I'm sorry I don't get how importing the game, denies money from the developers. maybe you can enlighten me
     
  18. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

    I think he was only talking about downloading an illegal copy, not actually buying an import.
     
  19. replicant

    replicant Well-Known Member

    Buy purchasing the import version of a game you are less likely to purchase the commercial version of the game within your country. That means you are supporting a foreign economy rather than your own economy. That isn't to say you will not buy the stateside (insert location) release of the game, but that you are more inclined to not buy it. That is the same problem that piracy leads to as well, but in a more dramatic fashion since they are supporting nobody. Both hurt your home economy.
     
  20. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    plague-cwa
    XBL:
    HowBoutSmPLAGUE
    [ QUOTE ]
    replicant said:

    Buy purchasing the import version of a game you are less likely to purchase the commercial version of the game within your country. That means you are supporting a foreign economy rather than your own economy.

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    How does this apply to Evo? I bought the import version from Videogame Depot (which is in the United States). USA benefits, Japan (Sony) benefits. If I purchase the domestic version from Videogame Depot, the same two countries benefit (probably equally).
     

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