Stance frames

So I tested out how many frames it takes for Lei to get into Hai stance. To do this, I picked Sarah for her 6P which is 14f.

What I did was that I got her to do her mid on a successful block.

So I first used Lei's Hai PP+K, which is +6 on block, then I see if Hai P (the P being 10f) can beat out Sarah's 6P.

And it does.

So I see if Nehan P+KP, which is +4 on block, can beat out Sarah's 6P.

It doesn't.

So I found that he might need to be at at least +5 to beat out Sarah's 6P. Using that, I illogically concluded from that that Hai takes 5 frames to executed from normal stance.

Now I know I'm wrong in that aspect. I also know that I'm not sure what I'm looking for other than finding +5 on block.

So... how do we work this out?

 

If I remember correctly, if you set the CPU to respond with a mid attack on block and select Shun, the CPU will use a 15 frame attack, that will give you another frame to play with

 

Hai takes 8-9 frames to execute.

I found this out 10mins after I posted up the topic.