Stance specific combos

Oh, capitalising on CH, now i get it. Don't apologize, i'm just very passionate about Vanessa, it comes across in a weird manner

I don't know about the open/closed stance thing; IIRC:

is stance (and range) specific from both stances and DS CH floats are identical to OS intruder step .
OS stance specific floaters are and
DS stance specific floaters are , , and

Am i missing something? Have you found stance specific combos for other OS launchers wielding better damage? That'd be awesome.

 

OS stance specific


slightly higher than so closed stance combo is different
this is in DS as well but I usually just do fc , not sure if there are better options. In OS I do closed stance , , and open stance , , or in the direction of opponents chest




, floats on crouch guard (depending on struggle) I think those floats are stance dependent as well

Not sure if I'm missing stuff but also the fact that she switches stance during some of her launchers and not others can sometimes be confusing if you're one of those people that checks stance before doing the launcher rather than after hitting.

 

I wasn't aware that , and had stance specific combos, i tend to just , i should really look into that, thanks.

 

I hadn't noticed before that this was split from the ss2k11 thread. Maybe it should have been merged with the VF5 Ver.C Vanessa Combos thread though.

Anyway, as my exchange with AlexMD shows, i'm clueless when it comes to stance dependent floats. I've striven to find combos that work on everybody from either foot stance so i'd have to memorise less! I mean seriously, vane's movelist is so long, it's hard to remember everything, sacrifices must be made Besides i'm lousy at stance checking. It'd love to learn a few more advanced floats though.

So i take this opportunity to start us off with a list of (foot) stance independant floats for Vanessa. Think of it as the "lowest common denominator" for vane's floats can yield in terms of float damage. If anybody has stance dependant floats that yield higher damage please share them! Don't forget to mention if it's weight dependant too

DS

CH (41) or NH (30) -> ; (24)
WS CH (30) -> (11)
NH (22) or / NH (19) or BT NH (19) or CH (22) -> ; (48)
CH (18) -> (41)
NH vs. standing (24) or / CH (30) -> ; (27)
Side NH (28) or OM Side CH (31) or Side CH (34) -> (37)
NH (14) or CH (32) -> (23)
NH (25) or NH (18) or NH (47) or NH (25) or CH (30) -> pounce (22)

OS

NH (26) or NH (20) or IS NH (20) -> (32)
IS NH + + (29) -> (25)
CH (30) or CH (30) -> (27)
HCF CH (37) -> (13)
BT NH (19) or CH (24) -> ; (43) or (43)
WR CH (30) -> (38)
NH vs standing (24) or CH (25) or CH (24) or HCF charged NH (38) -> ; (41)
HCF NH (27) -> (24)
Side NH (28) or OM Side CH or Side CH or Side CH -> (37)
IS NH (18) -> (28)
NH (20) or NH (20) or NH (25) -> pounce (22)

 

Ya i too would also like to Know stance specific combos for van if neone finds ne or know. Is it me or does fs seem like they took out alot of stance specific combos? I keep seeing the same single palm combo for goh.. I hope its still there for ppl who go the extra mile to get more dmg should be accessible... Erdraug if u know combos for van that are not on vfdc can u pm me it thnks

 

http://virtuafighter.com/wiki/doku.php?id=vf5:vanessa:black_book_combos&rev=1211512740

For Ver. B, not sure how much works for C.
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Speaking of which, why hasn't that been edited back (since my bitch fit)?

I'm willing to fix it, if no one else will.

Also... why no VF5FS frame data/combo pages, I can submit quite a bit on that as well.

 

Myke, do you know there is any commend or frame changed from Ver.A? I remember FS master guide was published before Ver.A launched.

 

I haven't gone into specific character combos as I don't play Van too often but this is some of the stuff that I usually use. Also I typed this up in word so forgive the weird formatting .

I'm sure there are character exceptions to some of the combos so feel free to correct mistakes and add extra stuff, that seems to be how they go about compiling combo lists at SRK etc.


Stance specific combos

Defensive stance

B,f+k,p (changes stance)
• p, pk, pkg (open only) 67dmg
• p, fc d/fp, pkg (closed only) 64dmg
• fp,d/fk (open only) 66dmg

b,f,pk
• p, pk, pkg (open only)
• p, fc d/fp, pkg (either)
• pp,pkg (good for wall hits)

fpk,p (changes stance)
• p, fp,d/fk (open only)
• p, pk, pkg (open only)

d/bKG (changes stance)
• pppk (open only) 62dmg
• fpkk (open only, need ch for mid heavy and above) 67dmg, 82ch
• p,fc d/fp,pkg (closed only) 58dmg

dk,p ch
• fpkk (open only) 65dmg
• p,pk,pkg (open only) 62dmg
• p, fc d/f+p, pkg 58dmg

WSk ch
• d/f+k (either stance) 47dmg
• pppk (closed only) 62dmg

fkg
• p, fc d/fp,pkg 67dmg
• p,pk,pkg (open only) 63dmg

U+k (changes stance)
• p,pk,pkg (open only) 55dmg
• p,fp,d/fk (closed only) 55dmg

Offensive stance

u/f+kg (changes stance)

• p, fppk (open only) 62dmg
• f+p,pkg, d/fk (closed only) 62dmg
• pp,pkg,pk,pkg,pounce (near wall) 73dmg

d/f+p
• f+p,pkg, d/fk (closed only, use d/fk as ender below mid heavy) 66dmg
• fppk (open only)64dmg

d/fpk
• f+p,pkg, d/fk (closed only) 66dmg
• p, fppk (open only)66dmg

d/bKG (changes stance)
• b,fpppk (open only) 67dmg
• f+p,pkg, d/fk (closed only, use d/fk as ender below mid heavyweight) 71dmg
• f+p,pkg, d/fk (open stance counter hit only)

f+kg
• dkp,pkg (closed stance only) 49dmg
• d+p, ffk,u or d+k (toward opp front, open only, midweight or below)54dmg

 

There are frame changes in Version A. There is a comprehensive list of changes (I think it is comprehensive) on AM2s website listing which moves were revised. Exact details such as exact damage adjustment are listed, but the frames adjustment are not. Also lots of changes that frame data does not necessarily capture.

 

whoa thanks guys !

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