Oh, capitalising on CH, now i get it. Don't apologize, i'm just very passionate about Vanessa, it comes across in a weird manner I don't know about the open/closed stance thing; IIRC: is stance (and range) specific from both stances and DS CH floats are identical to OS intruder step . OS stance specific floaters are and DS stance specific floaters are , , and Am i missing something? Have you found stance specific combos for other OS launchers wielding better damage? That'd be awesome.