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Starting out with El Blaze #2

Discussion in 'El Blaze' started by Modelah, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Modelah

    Modelah Well-Known Member VFDC Translator Content Manager Taka

    Note: This was written by Shironuko and translated by Modelah.

    Shironuko's VF5FS Beginner's Blog post

    Hello, my name is Shironuko. I'm a Patroklos user on a mission to rescue my sister from the clutches of evil. Along the way I was tricked by the likes of Nightmare, dear mother, but in the name of justice I'm doing quite well now thank you (lol). Oh, I also use El Blaze and would like to share some thoughts with you.

    Blaze's Characteristics, Strengths and Weaknesses
    Blaze has great moves at all levels (high, mid and low), and though the words 'awesome firepower' don't really fit he does have a range of circular attacks and user-friendly moves. Blaze has all the moves you need to punish, making him a great choice for people new to the game. As for his throw game, he has throws that do decent damage, catch throws and crouch throws so you'll never be needy for offensive options.

    His weaknesses are his lack of reach due to his small size, and the high damage he can take as a super lightweight. And that's it. That is to say, there aren't any greater weaknesses than those.

    As Blaze you should always be asking yourself, 'How can I get in close to my opponent, stick to them and keep the pressure on?' You really have to think of Blaze as a close-range specialist.

    Basic Skills
    Elbow class:
    [6][P]- Whenever you guard your opponent's attack, hit this. If you get a counterhit with this, you should follow-up with [K] so practice your hitchecking. Also, if your [6][P] is guarded and you think they'll counterattack with their own [6][P], your follow-up mid [K] will hit them. If your follow-up [K] is guarded however, you'll be super-punishable at -17f and run the risk of losing half your health bar against strong opponents so be careful about overusing it.

    Upper class:
    [4][P][+][K]- Blaze's 'Volcano Upper'. This will put you in a backturned position. Leaves with a great nitaku opportunity on normal hit, and can lead to combos on counterhit. On normal hit, your nitaku choices are BT[P][+][G] and BT[K] (which has a [P][+][G] throw follow-up on hit). If you think the opponent will abare go for [K], if you think they'll guard go for [P][+][G]. I'll write the combos on counterhit later.

    Knee class:
    [6][K][+][G]- When you guard against big moves like low sweeps, use this move to punish. This move is useful as a reverse-nitaku move too, other than that I don't really use it that much.

    [4][P][K]- A high half-circular and mid full-circular attack. After this move, inputting [6] will put you into RD (Rocket Discharge; Blaze's special run). I'll write more on this later.

    You really only need 3 throws in Blaze's game.
    [4][1][2][3][6][P][+][G]- Throws the opponent forward. Use this to ringout the opponent when you've got them in the right position.

    [6][3][2][1][4][P][+][G]- Throws the opponent behind you. Use this to ringout the opponent when you've got them in the right position.

    [P][+][G]- Same as above.

    Other Moves
    [2_][6][P][+][K]- An excellent move, this is a fast elbow class (14f) whiff punisher that gives combo chances on normal hit. Use this to hit them after you crouch under an attack but remember it hits high so you shouldn't use this as a nitaku move.

    [8][P][+][K]- Another great punisher that leads to combos on normal hit and also crushes lows attacks. Executes slowlyso again, don't use this in your nitaku setups. Use this when you suspect a low attack is coming or as a reverse-nitaku against throw attempts.

    [9][P][+][G]- A catch throw, so the opponent can't escape it. Use this when at advantage, and when the opponent locks up hit them with this. It's rather slow though so if the opponent catches on to what you're doing they'll swat you like a fly, lol.

    Use the aboves and you'll be able to slaughter your opponents. I'm sure some of you are saying things like 'I wanna spit that poison mist' and 'I wanna do that front rolling thing to freak out my opponents' but let me tell you this:

    Being a super-lightweight, the damage Blaze eats can be ridiculously high. Like, ridiculously high. Shenanigans can get you destroyed in as little as 10 seconds! For those of you who want to try that kind of stuff out anyway, I'll write a section on that shortly.

    These are the bare basics. Get these down first, the aim for the moment is to pull these off without dropping them.

    [4][P][+][K] Counter Hit
    [4][P][+][K](CH), BT[2][P], [6][P][K]- for all characters​

    [6][K][+][G], [P], [2][P][+][K], [6][P][K]- for all characters except Wolf and Jeffry, against Taka omit [P]
    [6][K][+][G], [P], [K][K][K] for Wolf and Jeffry
    [2_][6][P][+][K], [2][P][+][K], [6][P][K]- for all characters​

    [8][P][+][K], [P], [6][P][K]- for all characters​

    Rocket Discharge (RD)
    This is Blaze's special run, and can be entered after certain moves or with [6]/[4][P][+][K][+][G]. There are moves Blaze can perform from this run, but for starters stick with these two:

    RD[9][K][+][G]- A mid attack with a [P] or [K] follow-up. You can combo off the [P], so to begin with get used to just using that.
    RD[K][+][G][P], [6][P][K]- for all characters
    RD[P][+][G]- A catch throw. The only way an opponent can beat this is by crouching or by abare.

    So now you can apply a nitaku game out of RD with these moves, use them well!

    Never use [6][P][+][K][+][G] to suddenly charge at your opponent. For the time being just use [4][P][K]([6]) to go to RD. Enter [4][P][K]([6]), and if the attack hits follow up with the above choices for nitaku pressure. If your [4][P][K]([6]) is guarded, cancel out of RD with [7][G].

    Remember: Shenanigans can get you destroyed in as little as 10 seconds!

    Basic Strategy
    1. Whenever you guard an opponent's attack, hit [6][P].
    2. Perfect the combos listed above.
    3. When you're at advantage; if you think the opponent will abare use [4][P][+][K], if they guard throw them, and if they evade use [4][P][K].

    Do that and you should be able to rank up quite quickly.

    From the Author
    It's easy to become stressed-out playing as Blaze, but he has all the tools he needs and his flashy style can be quite exhilarating!

    Not a lot of people main Blaze but I'd like to welcome everyone who is willing to give him a try! The next top Blaze player may be you!!!


    Additional posts- These can be found after the main post (edited)
    No. 81
    In training mode I found:
    [6][K][+][G](CH), [P], [4][P][+][K], BT[2][P], [K][K][K] (99 dmg) works up to lightweight characters.
    [6][K][+][G](CH), [P], [4][P][+][K], BT[2][P], delay [P], [2][P][+][K], [3][K][+][G] (101 dmg) works on Eileen, Blaze, Aoi and Vanessa.
    [6][K][+][G](CH), [6][P][+][K][P], [4][P][+][K], BT[2][P], delay [P], [2][P][+][K], [3][K][+][G] (107 dmg) works on Eileen and Blaze in closed-foot position only.

    Yes, I actually use those combos. Sometimes they get launched so high [P] whiffs so be careful!
    Go to Starting out with El Blaze #1
    Last edited: May 2, 2014
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  2. daRockReaper

    daRockReaper Shadow Hammer MADNESS Bronze Supporter

    Hot doggers, though? Lol but This should be good stuff Thanks again, Modelah
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  3. Ellis

    Ellis Well-Known Member

    Great translation Modelah, so much easier to read for the people that understand Japanese rather than Japanese!

    I wonder though, are you sure that:

    Can be translated as:

    I know it can be hard to get the meaning through when trying to make sense since Japanese don't have a similar expression as the true Japanese meaning, but i guess you know what you are doing! ;)

    *End Friendly Sarcasm - keep up the good work man*

    Last edited: Feb 15, 2014
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  4. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

    unicorn cz
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  5. Ellis

    Ellis Well-Known Member

    It was the latter, Modelah is a great guy - but he needs a little bit of "trolling" now and then to stay sharp ;)

    I did suspect he left it like that for easier editing and translation when he had time of course, but it should be totally apparent by now that i cannot leave a opportunity for a friendly joke alone, ever :)
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2014
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  6. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

    So basically Shironuko is saying that all El Blaze players i have encountered online are playing their character wrong?

    Thank you for undertaking the translation of what already seems a very enlightening guide Modelah.
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  7. ShinobiFist

    ShinobiFist Well-Known Member

    So basically, 6P or death!!!! But yeah, good translation regardless.
  8. Modelah

    Modelah Well-Known Member VFDC Translator Content Manager Taka

    @daRockReaper, could you verify the above combo information in red please?
  9. daRockReaper

    daRockReaper Shadow Hammer MADNESS Bronze Supporter

    Looks like closed only. In open the opponent flies to far away after the [4] [P][+][K] for the BT [2][P] to land for the first bind on Eileen and Blaze Now I just have to start reacting to CH [6][K][+][G] to capitalize
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  10. Phoxx

    Phoxx Well-Known Member

    Phoxx 3D
    Yes! When I started playing this game I figured he was the absolute worst character in the game, just based on how easy it was to destroy online el blaze players. It took the Japanese players like Shironuko, Kissu, Yanaga to show me how amazing his mixup game is, and now he's one of my mains!
  11. cmase1989

    cmase1989 Well-Known Member

    haha yeah i feel theyre just going through the motions. Blaze is a heavy Oki character and if you dont know how to tech trap and stuff youre missing out on one of his biggest strengths

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