Taking up Llanfair's recommendation of Happ's "competition" line of buttons (thanks a lot for the tip, I love that they have a convex design), I'd like to hear what you think of the competition stick - given that the ultimate joystick is terrible. I believe Chanchai already said in an earlier reply to another post of mine that they were good - I was looking for an optical stick, but all I could find on Happ's site was a rotary optical, not a regular one. My doubts lie mainly in the spring action of the stick. I hate the "tight rubber" action that is so common, whereas the action is so stiff that the stick will wobble in the opposite direction when the intention was to release to neutral. Is the competition stick better than this? I expect it not to be too tight, but still firm - and precise enough so as to rest in neutral when expected to. Also, I'm mounting this on the TB cabinet I have set up, so I'm also looking for durability (although I wouldn't take a compromise for the latter instead of the former) - that's why I haven't mounted my DC ascii/ageteck stick parts, they're too frail for cabinet use. any thoughts greatly appreciated.