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Superman Movie

Discussion in 'General' started by Darrius_Cole, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. Darrius_Cole

    Darrius_Cole Well-Known Member

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    Article on Superman Movie


    Now I shall rant.

    WHAT IDIOT THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY FOR LOIS LANE TO GET KNOCKED UP BY SOMEBODY BESIDE SUPERMAN????????!!!!!!

    Superman stands for the ideal. He is the most wholesome hero in fiction. He's got all the power. But he never uses it for the good of himself, but only to help others. So after all the saving the world, and the self-sacrificing...
    Superman comes home to find out LOIS LANE IS ENGAGED TO SOMEBODY ELSE, AND SHE ALREADY HAS A CHILD BY HIM. /versus/images/graemlins/mad.gif

    Why would Superman want her after that? He's only got every other woman in the world chasing him? The right and wholesome thing to do would be to tell Lois to work it out with her fiancee/father of he child. But if he was going to do that why would Lois even be in the movie?

    Yes, Ladies(if there still is such a thing) and gentlemen(I know gentlemen are extinct) Superman is going to tear up their home? And eliminate their marriage/family before it even starts. Any 3 year-old knows Superman will eventually end up with Lois Lane. Superman is officially a home-wrecker.

    I suppose the child and boyfriend could always get killed in the movie. That doesn't leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth,...does it?

    Both the author who wrote this and the executive who let it pass are IDIOTS.

    If this were in a comic it would be the worse mistake in comics since Marvel tried to say that Peter Parker wasn't Spider-Man. Luckily it is not in the comic, so the public will be outraged and then it will be forgotten when they take the movies back to origin.
     
  2. Ryadus

    Ryadus Well-Known Member

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    If this were in a comic it would be the worse mistake in comics since Marvel tried to say that Peter Parker wasn't Spider-Man. Luckily it is not in the comic, so the public will be outraged and then it will be forgotten when they take the movies back to origin.

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    Marvel's comics have never been too good. They have always featured only super heros with their bad jokes-before-the-finishing-hit and superhuman powers and especially the power attract women. This has been the same pattern since Marvel's first superhero comic book (whatever it was, don't know, don't mind) and it just keeps on going.

    Second thing is that I don't think Marvel is popular elsewhere than in America because America has always a mighty country and that is why the comic book heroes must be mighty and even inhuman to some extent. Children learn early that true heroes are strong and all-mighty. Ain't that just bullshit? Elsewhere people (surely) are not reading that kind of comic books so much.

    So in the end, the point is that how can Marvel do anymore mistakes as it has already done enough?
     
  3. Darrius_Cole

    Darrius_Cole Well-Known Member

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    Marvel is a better run company than DC. They sell more comics and they are better at getting their heroes to the silver screen (movie theater). DC is older and as such their heavy hitters are more well known, but their stories aren't as compelling as the stories of the Marvel heavy hitters.

    I don't know about overseas, but in the US Marvel kicks ass.
     
  4. Vith_Dos

    Vith_Dos Well-Known Member

    Marvel's stories more compelling than DC's? *laugh*
     
  5. RagingSilver

    RagingSilver Well-Known Member

    oh dear god, thats gonna be a flop if thats his actual suit. At least buff it up like batmans suits. Then again, I never really liked superman, he's boring and has boring villains. IMHO, I think spiderman is the best for story and villains.
     
  6. Maximus

    Maximus Well-Known Member

    Naw man, you gotta hit it up to the X-men. They are the true ones, especially Wolverine. In my mind you just can't top X-men, not even Spidey (he's second in line).
     
  7. Ryadus

    Ryadus Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about overseas, but in the US Marvel kicks ass.

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    Overseas Marvel truly ain't the one kicking ass. Japanese manga, for instance, are getting more and more popularity and readers. Then there're those world-famous comics like Asterix and Lucky Luke which all come from France. in Europe, at least, the leading comic book country is France.
     
  8. KTallguy

    KTallguy Well-Known Member

    "I identify with Superman," Singer says. "I am adopted, I am an only child, and I love the idea that he comes from another world, that he's the ultimate immigrant. He has all these extraordinary powers, and he has a righteousness about him."

    HAHAH, I identify with Superman ... that's a good one ...

    I hope the curse doesn't start all over again...
     
  9. Darrius_Cole

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    Vith_Dos said:

    Marvel's stories more compelling than DC's? *laugh*

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    They sell more comics than DC for some reason. I think it is because Marvel heroes have more problems in everday life than the average DC character. The audience needs to detect some internal struggle in order to be truly pulled into the story. With the exception of Batman, who is slightly deranged, DC characters don't display that much difficulty coping with everyday life.

    I never heard of Asterix or Lucky Luke, but I love Japanese Anime.
     
  10. KS_Vanessa

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  11. Ryadus

    Ryadus Well-Known Member

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    I never heard of Asterix or Lucky Luke, but I love Japanese Anime.

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    The hell? Do you live in America or in a lonely island in the middle of the Atlantic? Donald Duck is other comic book that sells very well, better than Marvel, wordwidely, I dare to guess.

    Marvel's heroes really doesn't have any real problems, maybe some mental problems in their head as they play alter-ego game all the time, but I don't think their problems is the reason for higher selling rates or is it just in America. To tell the truth, Marvel's comics are always in the shelves left there to collect some dust. Every other year some youngster who occasionally has money to spend buys one of them, but besides that....
     
  12. Vith_Dos

    Vith_Dos Well-Known Member

    I'm not going to pretend to be a comic fan, but some of the stories I've read ifrom DC are just so much more intertaining. And Kingdom Come is definitely one of the best comics I have ever read. Few can name a story equal to it in the marvel universe, but of course this is all opinion.
     
  13. Darrius_Cole

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    [ QUOTE ]
    Ryadus said:

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    Mcoleman2 said:

    I never heard of Asterix or Lucky Luke, but I love Japanese Anime.

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    The hell? Do you live in America or in a lonely island in the middle of the Atlantic? Donald Duck is other comic book that sells very well, better than Marvel, wordwidely, I dare to guess.

    Marvel's heroes really doesn't have any real problems, maybe some mental problems in their head as they play alter-ego game all the time, but I don't think their problems is the reason for higher selling rates or is it just in America. To tell the truth, Marvel's comics are always in the shelves left there to collect some dust. Every other year some youngster who occasionally has money to spend buys one of them, but besides that....

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    Dude, nearly all marvel heroes have tons of problems. Comparatively DC heavy hitters have it made, they need only worry about the villains. Marvel heroes have to worry about the villains and personal problems. Superman is big and good-looking, immune to all earthly illnesses, has a hot wife/girlfriend, and good job. Wonder-Woman is a goddess with no flaws. The Green Latern's ring keeps him healthy and his power is limited only by his imagination. Aquaman is KING OF THE SEVEN SEAS. If they were not fighting villains they would be living it up. It's good to be the king.

    Spider-Man is often short on his rent, his girlfriends are always mad at him because he break dates, it is very common to see him have a cold, etc. The X-Men are subject to racism on a daily basis. The Thing has super strength but he can't turn it off, so he looks like a monster. The Hulk also has super-strength, but he is retarded when he uses it, and he can't control when he turns it on or of. Daredevil is a superior athlete but he's blind. The list goes on and on.

    It would be cool to be a DC hero. But if you are a Marvel hero, your life is screwed.

    The exceptions are...

    1. Batman - he is somewhat deranged. Thus in spite of all of his untold riches, I can't say it would be cool to be crazy. Having your parents killed in front of you has to leave scars. His life is screwed.

    2. Spider-Man - even though he has many problems. They all seem to the kind of problems that are common in the lives of healthy, everyday, normal humans. He seems to be able to handle them.

    Marvel heroes wear their masks when they are fighting villains. The costumes and capes HIDE the true person. Peter Parker dominates Spider-Man.

    DC heroes wear their masks when they pretend to be normal people in everyday life. The costumes and capes ARE the true person. Batman dominates Bruce Wayne.

    I contend that this is why Spider-Man is the biggest draw in comics. (He sells more comics than any other one (1) character, or at least he did 8 years ago when I was in college, and his movies gross more than any other comic character.) Ordinary people can relate to Peter Parker's problems. Spider-Man will break off a fight because he has to go finish his homework. He'll take pictures of his fights because he needs the money. Everybody can understand that.

    People need to see you overcome a formidable problem in order to see you as a hero. I think that's why Batman's movies are sucessful. They are so dark that anyone who can bring justice to a world that chaotic must be a hero. Conversely, what problem could possibly be too hard for Superman?
     
  14. Ryadus

    Ryadus Well-Known Member

    Hey, there're more comics than just Marvel's and DC's. In Europe, the most selling comics are Donald Duck, Asterix and mainly all the middle-European comic books.

    Spider-man might have been the best-selling comic book in America, but in Europe the situation has been different. Haven't you ever heard of comics like Spirou and Fantasio, Lucky Luke, Asterix. They are all European top comics. Then one good comic book: The Bone. Does anyone else like it?
     
  15. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    I used to love Lucky Luke, Tin-tin and Asterix. So completely different from the style of art and story telling that was found in our own magazines.

    Marvel and DC both put out more than their fair share of crap. In fact, I would venture that the bulk of what they produce is really just awful. Very juvenile stuff which kind of goes against the very mixed bag of consumers that are actually purchasing the stuff. Stay away from Marvel's "House of M" and all the sub books and DC's "Infinite Crisis" sub books and save your money for the better goods.

    And there are mainstream produced good books out there. Image's "invincible", Vertigo's "Y - The Last Man", Wildstorm's "the Authority" and Abstract Studio's "Strangers in Paradise" are all excellent, still being published in single issues and are available in collected editions.

    Mainstream but still good? Marvel's "Ultimate" series which serves as a grittier, parallel universe for re-telling the origins and stories of their top books. Stracynzki's Spider-Man is also very good.

    From DC, "Seven Soldiers" and the sub books are penned by Morrison which means it is going to be either Very Good or Very Bad. At them moment I find it hard to actually recommend DC books (aside from imprints such as Vertigo or Wildstorm) just because I don't think they're very welcoming to newer readers but you might Consider "Starman" or "Legion of Superheroes".

    GE
     
  16. OffBrandNinja

    OffBrandNinja Well-Known Member

    I don't know why you're all arguing over the superior comic industry when we all know that anything written by Neil Gaimen is the shit. Sandman, anyone?
     

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