Tech Traps in VF ?

So uhhh... I've been wondering for a short while about this, but does VF have tech traps similar to Tekken ?

 

Oh yeah. There are certainly tech traps in VF.

Kruza

 

Did you have a certain character, move, or setup needed explaining?

 

They're tech traps but it's not quite like tekken. It's more around do they tech or do they not tech, if they don't tech, do they roll or not, then which way do they roll, then do they rising kick or not. VF's oki game is slower paced than the tekken oki game and they're is less risk overll involved. The person on the ground has a lot of defensive options that are all fairly safe compared to my understanding of tekken's oki game.

 

ye. I was messing around with Vanessa and noticed that one of her throws (OS hcbP+G) leaves you in a position where your face is up and feet are away and was wondering if you can catch them back turned when they wake up and bring in the hurt lol.
I do realize that you're invincible on your wake up in VF but decided to ask in case there was some sick tech I could apply.

 

Oh neat, didn't know that about VF and ye in Tekken there is much more risk involved since for example wake up kicks if read correctly are heavily punishable on top of how oppressive the game can be.

 

Yeah VF is more about the OKI and less about just the teching from the ground. You need to use all the ground base options in VF because they're all useful almost all the time. In Tekken, you have more like one safe option to not get combo'd when you get up while in VF you'll have just one way as the offensive player to punish a wakeup. Like we can crush wake up kicks with any attack that does 21 or more damage but you have only 4 frames to land the technique. you can also punish wake up kicks by blocking and punishing with a 15 frame move, but that's only for kicks from backroll.

 

Plus there are the multiple wake up options Tekken has to keep in mind.

 

Handspring, Cross chop, Chinese Kip up, Character Specific wake up attacks, low kick, mid kick etc.

 

You are mainly more susceptible to oki on wake up if you tech in place.

 

Also VF has more options selects then Tekken ( a action that deals with multiple situations) when dealing with wake up attacks. For example. Let's say my El Blaze is knocks down your Vanessa face down feet towards. And I perform Blaze's to crowd you which puts Blaze back turned. While back turned Blaze's well timed will crush both mid and low rising kick.

 

I'd call that a setup more so than an OS. An OS requires two separate attacks to come out based on what your opponent does automatically. What you described is a setup.

 

You know. Your right. That make much more sense.

 

Thanks a lot for the help guys, I'll definitely try to make use of the stuff I learned .