Now you see the light at the end of the tunnel... there is hope! T4 may be broke, but now you have VF4! Yes, the comp may be sparse (non existent in the arcades) but now you have it on PS2 and can practice away... now it's time to include VF4 in our PS2 gatherings and tournaments... build yourself up in Kumite and Vs modes and let's get together to play some real fighting games for once. BTW for those who don't know, I'm Cosmic Forge from ElectricCancel and TekkenZaibatsu. Anyhow... I hope you guys now give VF4 a chance and come to realize that I really haven't been insane all this time when I say VF4 is the shit!