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This is fucking evil

Discussion in 'General' started by ice-9, Jul 19, 2003.

  1. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Anyone else getting pop-ups on their computer, and does anyone know how to stop them?? http://www.4vsoft.com/

    Ads and spam are really starting to piss me off!
     
  2. MK23

    MK23 Active Member

    I am assuming you're talking about browser pop-ups, right? (I don't know if there are any other kinds of pop-ups)

    Ever tried softwares like Pop-up Stoppper from www.panicware.com? You can d/l a free version from there.

    When I was still using Win2K, it worked very well for me. Unfortunately, after I "upgraded" to XP, some pop-ups still goes through.
     
  3. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    there are a ton of popup blockers out there, try http://download.com.com/3150-2144-0.html?tag=dir for a short list of a few. If you browse through download.com and other similar sites you can see which ones have the best user feedback and go from there. A friend of mine swears by yahoo's builtin blocker (part of the yahoo browser toolbar). I don't use any so no recommendations.

    As for anti-spam, some ideas:

    1. Once you have an email address, use it for absolutely nothing except friends/business contacts. If you must sign up for something online by submitting an email address, create a secondary junk mail address (yahoo or hotmail or whatever) for doing so. Sometimes you will get on a spam list through no fault of your own because you're in a friend's contact book. Not much you can do there.

    2. If you ever make a new email address, make it utterly unguessable by a spambot. They'll try any combination of 1 or 2 letters plus all sorts of last or first names, so jyuwono@something.com would be bad. badbadleroyyuwono@whaever.com would be ok though.

    3. Once you ARE on a spammer's list, never ever reply to them asking to be removed, and never click a remove link. It just confirms that they have a live one. They'll remove you from their list and then sell your email addy to 100 other spammers for a nickel.

    Following these tenets has kept me literally spam free on my primary email acct. Never one. My junk account, on yahoo, hasn't accumulated a whole lot either.

    Last but not least, if you have a fairly nice email client (I like Eudora) there will be some builtin keyword filter which will allow you to automatically delete incoming emails with certain words in the subject or text. Once you build up a nice library of words you can keep a lot of it out.
    There's also an application called mailwasher which can delete email while it's still on the server using SMTP commands. You never even download it to your PC. The downside is that email deleted this way is unrecoverable, and you wouldn't want to accidentally delete a good email this way. Using the keyword filter to process mail after it's downloaded is safer - you can have it stick stuff into a trash folder without permanently deleting it, if you'd like.
     
  4. EmpNovA

    EmpNovA Well-Known Member

    There are tons and tons of programs that have pop-ups written in their code.....

    Like Kazaa, if you habe Kazaa set to automatically start up when windows does, then most likely you will get bombarded by pop-ups.

    - - - -

    Ways to prevent/stop them:

    -Firewalls, there are several firewalls that prevent pop-ups from intruding on you

    -Pop-up blockers, though most (good) ones are not free, but free ware ones are still good for being free

    -There are several programs like Black Ice PC Protection which stop ALL access from your computer through all possible ports, and you only have to pay for the software (unlike Norton with its annual fees)

    - - -

    Odds are, if you have some kind of P2P or messaging system (even IRC I think), you are succeptable to having pop-ups at any time.

    - - -


    There is one negative I can think of to having pop-ups disabled though. Some sites open downloads and files in new windows, windows that are registered by most programs as "pop-ups," that means that you will not be able to access those files while you have pop-ups disabled.........you will have to let all other pop-ups in.

    - - -

    What kinds of programs do you have running on your PC, at your start up, all the time?
     
  5. MK23

    MK23 Active Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    EmpNovA said:

    There is one negative I can think of to having pop-ups disabled though. Some sites open downloads and files in new windows, windows that are registered by most programs as "pop-ups," that means that you will not be able to access those files while you have pop-ups disabled.........you will have to let all other pop-ups in.



    [/ QUOTE ]

    I don't have too much experience with other softwares, but Pop-up Stopper served me very well (before my upgrade to XP). It tells you when there's a new window being opened (rather unintrusively too, with a little icon flash). So if it's one of those sites where you have to open a link in a new window to d/l, you can just press "ctrl" or "L shift" (or whatever key you set it to be) and click on the link to open up a new window. It's awkward at first, but I got used to it fast. It definitely beats having to close all the pop-ups manually...
     
  6. EmpNovA

    EmpNovA Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    MK23 said:

    you can just press "ctrl" or "L shift" (or whatever key you set it to be) and click on the link to open up a new window.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    No, that will not always work.

    Some sites will give you a link to file.
    Once you click on the link, you are forwarded to the next page on the site.
    Once that page has loaded, the file is brought up on another window, which is registered as (you got it!) a pop-up.
    If pop-ups are blocked, you won't be able to get the file, or even view the source in most cases.

    So shift clicking is not the answer always, for many sites now, you can't have pop-ups disabled, or else you cannot access the full site.
     
  7. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your comments and suggestions guys, but this pop-up affliction is not the browser-kind. Apparently, there's a way for advertisers to send stuff to IP addresses and have them displayed as part of the OS. I.e. the "pop-up" isn't browser generated but Windows generated.

    I have one of those sweeper-type software so I'm pretty sure it's not anything lodged on my computer...these pop-ups are being sent from outside.
     
  8. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    The unlikely culprit: I read a recent article in the NYT about how a network of computers was hijacked in such a way as to allow them to discreetly forward porn advertisements to others without being able to trace the source or go through an intermediary.

    The likely culprit: the only way to get regular advertisments without browsing is if you or someone else on your computer voluntarily installed an ad-supported program. Weather programs, Gator (which is bundled even into respectable stuff like divx pro), bonzi buddy, online coupon/discount centers, etc all do this.

    You need ad-aware. It searches for adware and spyware and deletes it. It's free, completely functional, and (as far as I can tell) 100 percent effective. 18,000,000 people can't be wrong.

    http://download.com.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
     
  9. pltan

    pltan Well-Known Member

    I think MK23 was saying Pop-Up Stopper gives you the option to choose if the pop-up should be opened or not.
     
  10. MK23

    MK23 Active Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    pltan said:

    I think MK23 was saying Pop-Up Stopper gives you the option to choose if the pop-up should be opened or not.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Yes, that's what I meant to say. Thank you.
     
  11. vf4akira

    vf4akira Well-Known Member

    non-browser related pop-ups pretty much means you have another program on your PC that is listening for stuff on the network. Ad Aware is probably the best software to find these programs.

    As for browsers, you might want to try Firebird http://texturizer.net/firebird/index.html. I can't even remember the last time I got a pop up. You can block images from particular servers (banner ads) and you can get a plugin that stops flash stuff from starting unless you click it (my favorite).

    As for that link to 4vsoft, if you're running winNT,2k, or XP, turn off the messenger service in the services list. dunno what the procedure is for 9x series. better yet, get some kind of firewall.
     
  12. Two_Bit_Mage

    Two_Bit_Mage Well-Known Member

    analog x "pow" (I think www.analogx.com)

    its free, and you have to add the site every time you want it to go bye bye (double click on the menu in the prog) but I like it
     
  13. replicant

    replicant Well-Known Member

    I use Ad-Aware and POW myself. They are both excellent programs.
     
  14. kbcat

    kbcat Well-Known Member

    If you are just getting pop-ups out of nowhere, and they are in very plain-jane dialogs that have something like "Message sent from 168.2.212.6", or something like that, then it sounds like you are getting Windows Messenger pop-ups. They were originally intended for printer notifications and the like (i.e. "message from your printer -- you document has finished printing").

    It's easy to stop these if you're on 2K or XP. Just go to your "services" panel (by right clicking on "My Computer" and choosing "manage", then expand "services and applications" in at the bottom of the tree control and click on "services"). Now that you have the services pane up -- scroll through the services until you find "Messenger" -- double click on "Messenger" and change the start up type to "disabled" -- click "ok' and bob's your uncle.

    The assumption is of course that you are getting windows messenger pop-ups.


    cheers,
    kbcat
     
  15. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    kbcat, I think those messenger pop-ups are exactly what you're talking about! Will see if they pop up again when I hook up my computer at home (protected by a firewall at work). Thanks, you're a genius!
     
  16. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    Thanks, you're a genius!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    he's even got the card that proves it!

    GE
     
  17. Killbomb

    Killbomb Well-Known Member

    Heh...I wish Creed would have posted these tips about 3 years ago as I'm now hopelessly buried in spam. /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif
     
  18. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    Doh /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

    It's a hassle, but it's worth it, to just start up a new email address.

    If you have a decent local ISP, esp. broadband, they usually give you several email addresses. Get a fresh new one and use it only with buddies.
     

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