I know that it is widely known that moves that recover at -8 are throw-counterable but have anyone really went to test it out in PS2?? I know that moves that gives +8 on MC do not give you confirmed throws. Why? how about +9? is there any moves that gives confirmed throws? Jacky's neutral reversal,P gives +10 and that is confirmed throw right? So do all moves with +10 frames give confirmed throw?