Timing with Kage, TFT, rising knee ><

Ok my problem right now is getting the timeing for the rising knee to hit. For me it is very hard. Trying to get the 'ten foot toss" and then immediatlly getting that knee to hit my opponent.

I am always too late with the kick and I miss and the opponent (my brother) just recovers from the fall and >< wastes me.

Right now my main string of attack is the
+, , +,

Yes i know compared with other combos it does very little, around 62 but varies with weights, only 50 with the heavy weights.

If maybe someone culd suggest a better combo possible without the rising knee for i still need practice with it, i would be very gracious ^_^.

Also do many of you use back attacks? I find that some back attacks could be useful, but i usually never do it succesfully, It leaves me very vulnerable.

Well thanks in advance

oh btw i dont know most of the "terms" you use for kage. So if u dont mind explaining if you use them ^^.

 

well i really dont know how i time his rising knee correctly i just hit them, i'm really not thinking of the timing i just follow my guts/instincts, but here's something that might help

kage's TFT and his knee

read through the thread and i'm sure you'll find something useful, as for follow ups after the knee go here

kage TFT combos

and here's one i posted myself

some kage TFT combos that might interest you

hope this helps yah /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif

 

I dont' use Kage much (just when I'm playing against someone lame, as I really suck w/ him) but I had my friend teach me that.

Here's the input for the knee after the TFT:
+ then do whatever you want.

The trick is you've got to do a crouch dash which turns you around, then . Technically, the will turn you around, but you won't see it. There's no ducking involved -- that should help you.

Now go have a good toss! /versus/images/icons/blush.gif

 

For a non knee combo try this

TFT +,, ++,DP does 72 damage i've seen it do 78 though

 

Ok i am going to try your technique Gajin ^^.

Also I have a question about what Quick rising is? I already know what Techrolling is from reading a post somwhere here. But what is quickrising?
I had that question because i read your TFT combo thing Death ^^.

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Yeah, Myke's answer is much better.
Didn't know he turned around though -- that shows you how much I use Kage. /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

 

Heh dont worry bout it gajin, I kinda took what u said and somehow made it to what Myke said ^^. I actually didnt know that there were those low rushes lol. anywyas i can successfully do the knee sometimes. I still need to find that recovery point from the TFT that Myke stated. Some slow motion and that motion bar should help do this.

Thx all.

 

I think the follow up that does the most damage is:
+ -- I have problems getting the in on time though. /versus/images/icons/frown.gif

 

GP is right, but I see something else can be done. In clips I see people do instead of to connect the +., but more often I see after the knee, for extra damage. Hope that helps.

PS: Just to make sure you OniKage or anyone else understand ,
is a punch kick combo, but the kick is cancel by the . The timing is like this, 1,2..3, or skip a beat then . The first two button press is fast,, and the third is only a beat behind.

 

Kage's TFT combos are character specific sometimes. The one you posted Gaijinpunch only works on vanessa and lion AFAIK.

For TFT combos, I find this to be a good resource:
http://virtuafighter.com/view.php?section=vf4&chara=kage&file=vf4_kage_tft_combos_ramzan.txt

Scroll down to the most damaging TFT floats per character and try to learn those if possible.

Don't want to discourage creativity tho, it's fun to mess around with kage's TFT combos. Learn some fancy ones and show off /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif

Good luck.

 

Some of the highest damage combos have changed.

Sarah:

++ - + - + - ++ - +
83pts I think

Akira:
++ - + - + - ++ - +p

or

++ - + - + - + (good timing needed)

If Kage does ++ - ++ - + - ++ on Akira than Akira can Quick Rise (++) and do a Guaranteed Double Palm with just a input