Toe Kick Stunner

Hi Everyone I have To say that the toe kick stunner is one of my best looking moves but i can not excute it can any body help me !! like what is the time of this move do i wait 1sec...2..3 like what is it!

 

When the kick hits.

 

But how long do i wait? is there a time limit?

 

the kick needs to hit and you have to hit + at frame 17-19. Distance is key as well, I believe there is a distance where you can hit with the toe kick (like tagging the opponent's stretched out baby toe) and still miss the throw.

GE

 

ok the frames you talk about 17-19 can you tell me how is that done? the frames i donot understand

 

The game runs at 60 frames/second. So, every second, 60 frames pass. Each move in the game has defintive frame properties. So, for that move, between frames 17-19 during the hit, you have to hit your +

 

The way I do it is get a rhythm down of when to press P+G after doing b+K+G, so you don't have to watch for the move to hit. I think the best way to start out with it though is to just go into free/command training and watch for it to hit and try pressing P+G then. There really isn't an exact science to doing it.

 

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17-19 frames.

GE

 

lol yes because someone is going to slow down the training mode enough to where they can count the exact number of frames and say hey! 17th-19th frame! lets press P+G! and then be able to recognize those 3 frames in a match. /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

no, but it gives you an idea of how fast.

muscle memory takes over for any sort of mental precision. I'm just illustrating that there is an exactness to accomplishing the hit throw. the exact window is between 17-19 frames.

GE

 

i remember i just used to do ++ after a +
i think it works in all vf versions

 

I bet that info will help him a lot...
What the hell are you talking about? /versus/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

TKoD maybe?

>+ courtesy of Senor McWild?

 

well whats a toe kick stunner? is it the back+++
then ???

 

It's: +, then +. I don't use it much. Usually after I block a sweep. Even in that situation, it's easy to screw up.

 

Toe kick stunner belongs to the Canadian, not Jeff.

On a side note, you can't do TKoD with a d/f,d/f+P+G input.

 

1 second has 60 frames of animation and to do the toe kick stunner, you need to hit + at about 0.3 second after the toe kick connects.

IMO, how fast is 0.3 sec depends very much on individual's reflexes. So, it's really difficult to explain the exact timing to hit +.

I'll agree that the best way to do it is to get the rhythm. You'll have to practice till you get those fast button-tapping rhythm right. Same goes for wolf's other hit throw stunt, Fly Myer ((hit) +).

Cheers.

 

That'd be a counter hit for the other one, no?

As Myke stated -- the training mode is the best. Counting frames (especially a 3-frame window) is for the birds. You need to be able to "feel" the move.

Be glad it doesn't require a counter hit, so you won't spend half of the time wondering if it was a counter, the other half if it was the wrong input/timing.

 

wolf's other hit throw does not require a counter hit. And the timing is completely sleepy compared to his Toe Kick Stunner.

One thing of note is that with his jumping chop hit throw there are no counter guarantees. The opponent merely has to struggle to get out of the throw. sucks.

and to clear up, I wasn't advocating "counting frames" but dismissing the idea that there ins't an exact science to the move. There is and it is best illustrated in the frame data.

GE