US/UK players

Discussion in 'Local Scene' started by [PKG], Oct 4, 2001.

  1. [PKG]

    [PKG] Active Member

    To be honest I haven’t been to impressed with the American players in VF. I know there are a few very good players but when you consider how many more people play VF compared to the UK I would expect better. We've had a couple of US players who came to the UK but they did not leave much of an impression. Actually... I did meet myke when he came to the UK and he was quite good... but that was a long time ago.

    In all honesty if Ryan and Hatim did go to the US they might not win straight away but after a few warm up matches they will soon adapt to your tactics/style of play, and then they would dominate.

    Maybe one day all the UK VF players will go to the US to play you guys on VF4? I think its better we all go together so that we can motivate each other.

    <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by [PKG] on 10/04/01 10:23 AM (server time).</FONT></P>
  2. alantan

    alantan Well-Known Member

    come to singapore then.

    Hey, Zengzi, you are in UK right??? Go show them what singaporeans are made off :)

    I still think that you were the best VF3 player in Singapore although you lost in the final to Aoi during the tournament. Do you play VF4 in London???
  3. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    To be honest, I have not been impressed with some of the UK players ( To be fair, some of the UK VFers I do know are quite cool peeps)

    so far, nothing but brag brag brag and nothing but spamming the board.

    In all honesty, ur arrogance does not shock me regarding ur stupid asumption that US players play VF like an automated robot. What make u think it is not possible for say, Adam, Rich, shota or Hiro to just run all over Ryan and Hatim?
    A few warm up matches and UK VFers will be ready to take over US, that's a bloody ridiculous view u got there.

    So u're suggesting that as time passes, myke just became shit with the game? Or that UK VFers improved over time and with no rematch, UK VFers are naturally stronger than Myke now?

    Those couple of US VFers that went over to the UK DO NOT represent the US VF community.

    Ur analogy of more people in the US, thus US should be better in VF is stupid. Plain Stupid. It's the amount of gamers, not the population. China should be a powerhouse in Videogames then~!

    One more point that is needed to point out loud and clear.
    DO not attempt to represent the entire UK VF community by yourself. U're giving the rest of the UK VF community a bad name in doing so.

    I am sure if UK n US do hook up and play the end of the day, it's the gameplay and maybe the friendship they will remember, not brag about how one country dominated the other.

    <font color=red>~~~ 'Flock off feather brain, or u can stick around and find out the hard way!/versus/images/icons/mad.gif~~~'
  4. [PKG]

    [PKG] Active Member

    Zengzi who???

    He must be training to be a stealth assassin... I've never seen him b4.

    One thing is for sure... if he is (or was) good he would of turned up at namco or casino, but I don't remember that:)

    The only top players in this country that played VF3 is hatim, ryan, marc and dai.
  5. [PKG]

    [PKG] Active Member

    JESUS!! calm down m8... im only teasing.

    I was not suggesting myke was shit, I meant he could of got much better.
  6. adsega

    adsega Well-Known Member

    Londoners have the opportunity to play eachother in a confined environment, where pretty much the best players in the country practise every night at the moment. Because the US is so much bigger and players are spread out, I would have thought they don't get as much quality practise.

    One day we will have to organise a giant worldwide tournament. Er... for the west.

    BTW, Sega are promising VF4 (PS2 version) at TGS next week, I will let you know what happens on Oct 12 (Sega press conference day).

    Is anyone here in Tokyo next week, we could hook up for some VF4.

    Adam Doree

  7. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    Well disrespect but you guessed wrongly this time.
    It's not the quantity that matters.

    Anyway.. I hope you have a good time in tokyo seeing PS2 VF4 footage.

    I hope u actually get time to play the demo as well~!
    Have a good time~

    <font color=red>~~~ 'Flock off feather brain, or u can stick around and find out the hard way!/versus/images/icons/mad.gif~~~'
  8. Hayai_JiJi

    Hayai_JiJi Well-Known Member

    Actually I think it is the quantity in VF. You just have a much greater chance of playing someone with a different style the more people you play. That is why the Japanese are so much better. They just have the oppurtunity to play so many different people with different styles of play.

    Under the surface of the most jaded cynic lies a dissappointed idealist- George Carlin
  9. adamYUKI

    adamYUKI Well-Known Member

    Maybe one day all the UK VF players will go to the US to play you guys on VF4?

    Nigga pleeeeease.../versus/images/icons/wink.gif C'mon, we all should play some vf4 AND vf3tb, while people are still very familiar with vf3tb. That is why i think we should hold this thing soon (in the next couple of months at the latest). People have gotten to a pretty high level in TB and hence there is greater potential for more exciting matches as opposed to the newly realeased vf4 - where everyone is still pretty scrubby (the game for the most part - in the west at least - is not being played the way it probably was meant to be played).

  10. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Zeng Zi just moved to the UK, going to school in the middle of nowhere somewhere.

    So when are you guys going to come down to the US? I have only seen two UK players in action...UK Kid and Ryan. UK Kid in the year before last's E3, and Ryan in Japan more than a year and a half ago. I think Ryan's level is approximately the same with Adam, even though they play differently, but perhaps there is a divergence today. And I think there are many US players who feel they are on the same level or at least competitive with Adam, myself included heh heh.

    Last I heard, Ryan kicked everyone's ass in the UK.

    Personally, I prefer if a UK-US matchup would be held in, this month or the next before VF4 completely takes over. There's no need to bring everyone, just the best will suffice.
  11. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Wasn't it UK_Guy who went to E3 a year and a half ago, not UK_Kid? I'm guessing they are different people, UK_Kid = Phil.

    Just thought I'd lay that correction down, if it is a correction...

    However, on topic, I do hope Ryan and Hatim (and whoever else) get a chance to go to NY SOON. I wish Jan could go, but I know I won't be able to see him fully represent his VF3 skills (but if I can meet up with everyone on the given day, come on down Jan!!! I still wanna meet you in person and chill and all). I haven't heard much on how Hatim plays, it just sounds like since VF3, he's always been one of the strong guys behind Ryan. As for Ryan, I very much look forward to seeing him play, especially against a few of the US players. What I heard is that Ryan has amazing reflexes and an unbelievable will to win.

  12. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    Ummm.. HELLO!

    The "Myke" you met in the UK was not me. I've never been to the UK.

    I think you're talking about Mike Scupa, aka mutant. I know there are a lot of Mikes around, but please get your facts straight.

    Just had to clear that up.

    FWIW, mutant's a great guy who I have the pleasure of knowing personally. I hook up with him everytime I'm in Vancouver.
  13. adamYUKI

    adamYUKI Well-Known Member

    What I heard is that Ryan has amazing reflexes and an unbelievable will to win.

    Ooooooooooooooh...i'm getting aroused. Sounds like a player right after my own heart.

  14. [PKG]

    [PKG] Active Member

    Unfortunately UK-Guy (Mo) doesn't play VF anymore. He was one of the top players in the UK but due to work commitments he doesn’t play anymore:(
  15. adamYUKI

    adamYUKI Well-Known Member

    What you are saying is kind of a moot point. The UK players stopped playing along time ago, the US players that still play are very hardcore about VF3tb. More so the NYC players play VF3tb more than another other group on a regular basis so we fine tune our abilities and skill Ryan, and im sure Hatim stopped playing quite a while back. The fact that Jan said Ryan was basically practicing TFT combo's on Hatim and himself said it all, Hatim probably could not compete with us anymore. However since Ryan has practiced in Japan a bit he may be formable competition.


  16. adamYUKI

    adamYUKI Well-Known Member

    Ice you put it quite well, Adam is probably the most competative among all the NYC players in VF3tb. About a year and a half ago I would say Ryan/Adam was a 50-50 toss up, but now since Ryan stopped playing I really would bet Adam much more favorable odds. Really Adam just started playing Jeffery probably less than a year and a half ago too! His Akira has also vastly improved. A year and a half ago was six months before NYG2.


  17. [PKG]

    [PKG] Active Member

    I was only joking about the UK/US player debate. Frankly I don't really care I just wanted to read everybody’s reaction.

    In regards to VF3, I didn’t stop playing it because I didn’t like it anymore; it was more to do with playing the same players every single time... Ryan, Hatim, Steve, Mo, Marc... It was like Groundhog Day! I basically lost all my passion for the game.

    And now... VF4.

    At 1st, I didn’t think much of it because it felt really different. But after playing the game a for a bit I can actually say it has the potential to be even better then 3 *Cough*

    The other day I walked into the arcade, and for once nobody was standing by the Tekken machine... they were watching VF4 which I couldn’t believe. And what makes things even crazier is that some of the Tekken players were actually playing it, although it would probably taken them years to even comprehend how much more skill you need compared to that filthy game tekken J

    Anyway, hopefully VF4 will inspire allot of new people to start playing the game, and now that it’s going to come out on PS2 it can only mean new people to beat (I mean challenge).

  18. AkiraKidWannaBe

    AkiraKidWannaBe Well-Known Member

    Don't you guys know that there are some Japanese and Korean readers in this forum?
    When those best players don't argue who's best, we are talking about who's best.

    Adam ? Ryan?

    How about Chibita or AkiraKid?

    How about US&UK vs. Japan&Korea ?

    I think they will beat the hell out of us.

    So, don't brag about ourselves(UK players, too).

    Those asians will laugh at us when they read our posts.

    Guys, let's be modest when we know that we are not the best.

    P.S. According to the release date, VF4(Jap version) will come out Dec/20/2001, which is this winter. Hooray...

    <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by AkiraKidWannaBe on 10/04/01 04:53 PM (server time).</FONT></P>
  19. feixaq

    feixaq Well-Known Member

    The other day I walked into the arcade, and for once nobody was standing by the Tekken machine... they were watching VF4 which I couldn’t believe.

    I've actually noticed this at Sunnyvale Golfland as well. There are 2 T4 machines, 1 VF4test machine... but apart from the first few weeks after T4 was launched, the VF4 machine gets more play now.

  20. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Oh trust us, we know the leagues to which a lot of the Japanese players are far above us. I think we feel so weird to ask them to fly to New York to play VF with us for awhile (I'm certainly not asking them to go to Oregon just to play me/versus/images/icons/tongue.gif). Trust us, we look up to a lot of the Japanese and Korean players. However, we don't talk about Koreans as much as many of us haven't heard much of their VF scene while Tekken Tag was/is the big thing there.

    When it comes to Japanese players... We don't believe being from Japan makes you good. But we know that there are quite a lot of amazing players there (that go far beyond us even, or so I get the impression of). Fortunately, some of the people here have played against some of the top Japanese players and the tier below them. Kyasao, Kurita, Chibita, Se-Girl, Skeleton.... to name a few. The members who have traveled to Japan often make a point to point out the good places to play VF (as opposed to places where you'll almost always run into scrubs).

    Again, when it comes to the Korean players, many of us are "wowed" by what we've seen of Akira Kid, Jang (forgot the full name), etc... In fact, some of us are blown away by the spot-on reflexes of the Koreans playing VF4!

    About this UK vs. US thing... UK (and Denmark) players have gone on the record to compare themselves to the world and to Japanese players. Whether this is purely for propaganda or is in fact a "self-analyzed" statement, I don't know. But as for the US, none of the really good players that I know of have ever dared to make such a statement publicly (or even privately). We feel confident against the UK and Europe in VF3tb. Not necessarily against the world.


    PS Unfortunately, on the side, I have not seen anything of Akira Kid regarding any version of VF3 beyond the Max Battle Tournament. However, I am dead sure that his peak in VF3 was way beyond what was shown at that tournament (just like nothing in that tape can really represent completely what VF3 is like in Japan now). But for the small time the game was out by Max Battle, it was awesome seeing already what he had accomplished in those few months. Watching the Akira Kid VF2 combo clips is proof in itself that his dexterity at the controls are the real goods.

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