I was hoping somebody could give me a little help on the timing of Vanessa's Low Throws. I went through Spotlite's old "Vanessa in General" Post and I saw a few mentions of tossing out a low throw after crumple attacks. More Specifically, using the Intrude Hook (hold G, u+P) and then grabbing them with a low throw. I've been putting some time in trying to figure out how it goes, but I havnt been able to pull it off, and I figure my timing is just wrong. Do you have to go for the grab while they are on the way down, like right after you connect with the hook, or is there a bit of delay on the input? Also, semi related, is it possible to hit your opponent with a low throw from any of Vanessa's crumple attacks? I've noticed that she had quite a few of them and I also saw a few mentions that it is possible. Is it just that I have to work on being quicker on the stick to grab em right as the fall to their knees or am I trying in vein to do something that isnt possible?