OK, as of recently I showed my friend how to break out of low throws. Now since Vanessa only has two low throws it's possible for him to buffer both commands so that he can break out 100% of the time. Knowing this I tried to actually find some crumple juggles... yet Vanessa seems very limited in that area. The only things of interest I found was: Defensive (crumple) f+p,df+k, (d+k if opponent doesn't tech roll) Muay Thai Nothing of interest. Now this hits my arsenal pretty badly. I'm quite fond of Vanessa's sidestepping body blows (G,u+p/d+p). But now without the low throws, it takes a lot of the bite out of that move, or any move that crumples. Anyways, I was wondering if anyone else was any more successful in finding a better combo after a crumple.