I finally get to know what that youtube vid i found four months ago was all about

Thanks for putting this on the front page akai

Shoutouts to all Vanessa players

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This is good news. Nice to see Vanessa getting some attention.

Would be cool to see these for every character. Will try to catch this for sure

Gonna check this out tonite

I can't wait it is going to be great

THIS. IS. HYPE!! LET'S GO!

Saw most of the players doing lots of poking and picking, not so many combos with Vanessa. Some very good matches were played, good even!

We need a Jack off (Jacky off)

Watching the archives now.

Singles:

DS f+p,df+k / f,f+p,p will connect against her IS. In fact they seem to hit low enough to be used when DS gets a low wall splat.
OS jump back > descending k works against IS (and against a lot of other short range attacks too!)
OS f,f+k,p has force crouch (25:49)
OS f+p (hit confirm) k seems quite delayable (26:35)
DS p,p (opponent tries to crouchdash fuzzying) stagger k works (34:28)
DS IS roll to the side gets hit by a low punch (34:30) Two things: (i) it's not invulnerable like shun's rolls (ii) vanessa automatically recovers standing :-(
Takedown f+p+g > OM > db+k+g teleports to the other side of the opponent (41:39)
OS f,f+k!f+p+g lancer works against OS uf+p (42:39) either (i) uf+p is not considered jumping at the early frames or (ii) lancers were buffed
OS df+k,p (pause) k is very delayable! (45:29) vanessa almost returns to her neutral animation before continuing with the last hit :-O Later that round we see another f+p (confirm) k
I think i've already mentioned this but DS b,f+p+k works on high kicks too (47:04)
DS db+p+k works vs IS (47:04) maybe it will work vs shuns lie stance down too?
It looks like the new f,f+k+g is NOT the same move in both stances! (49:59 vs 51:08) According Kruza's VF5FS movelist the DS version is 2 frames faster (16 vs 18)! The DS version looks like her VF5 vanilla b+k+g imho.
1P vanessa is hot (1:03:02)
2P vanessa player is amazing (1:08:56)
Final game (1:31:08) has some nice wall combos, mind reading, the only OS df+k+g hit-throw in the tournament and goes to an exciting 5th round

Team Tournament:

Don't IS near walls (13:46 and 14:05)
OS p,k (opponent backdashes) d+k+g counts as CH > hit-throw (17:10)



Range )
DS f,f+k wall splat > f,f+k (21:15) that's just lazy :-D 21:21 we get DS b,f+k,p (perpendicular wall hit) k+g > p,k for some even lazier damage X-D
Mindfucking the opponent while he is rising up with DS uf+k+g (24:02)
DS b+p also hits IS (28:58) From what i've seen DS oki will revolve around f,f+k, b+p and the new db+p+k. Maybe f+pkg if you want to switch to OS.
OS f+pkg > df+p (39:10) "Nice, i blocked a big move i'll go for a nice mid now" *facepalm*
evade opponent's high attack > DS k+g (opponent backturned) > k,k connects > opponent backturned again! (39:18)
OS p,df+p CH > d+k,p,k,f (IS) k > df+k,k first time i see that one (43:17) A couple of seconds later i think we see a shun sober combo: OS b+k to end the round > k+g > d+k,p,p (should take 3 DPs)
DON'T I NEAR WALLS (55:33) Speaking of IS, they're confusing - should we call the DS IS "DIS" and the OS one "OIS"? Or just call the DS IS "lie down stance"? Something else?
"I meant to do it" moment (57:46)
OS uf+k+g > opponent OMs > punishes uf+k+g with p,p,k BACK hit (1:06:48)
DS df+k+g!p+g to punish a blocked sweep (1:08:37) Pretty sure they only sweep punishment i saw up until now
OS uf+k+g jumps over IP (1:14:11) Obviously.
Why you need to know learn floor scraping moves (01:15:54-01:16:01)
OS can punish sweeps with f,f+k (crouch stagger),p > df+k,k (01:36:08) but here's a ring out instead
Same deal here, OS low punch hits > opponent back dashes > OS d+k+g connects, counts as CH > mount (01:37:58) The range is really good.


Things i haven't seen yet:

DS db+k+g getting blocked (is there a blocked move animation?)
OS b,df+p+k after a back dash (is the move still evasive?)

All in all, a must-see for any vanessa player, just as zero-chan pointed out while i was editing this post for the last couple of hours

You're going to get *much* more out of watching this if you play Vanessa. She's not seen as much in the high-level JP tournaments as the "popular" characters, so this is basically a fantastic opportunity for us to watch a constant stream of pure tech and pick up some ideas.

Also happy to see just how many players turned out! If only plane tickets weren't $1000, I'd have joined in :3

Only reason I checked this thread was to see if Zerochan posted in it lol.

i'm watching this now and i really can't wait to get my hands on this game, i'm looking forward to picking up fighting with vanessa again ^_^