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vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars?

Discussion in 'Lei' started by social_ruin, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    smb told me u've checked out everyone on the games half-circulars!! Do u care to give a general breakdown of what direction i should evade agahnsf each chatacter, or is this kbowledge ya keeping 2 urself, and i gotta research on my own
     
  2. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    This information is visible in the movelists, evade direction reads either b/-,f/-,or -/-. f = front side, b = back side. -/- means move cannot be evaded ie. its circular.

    If it reads b/f it means it can be evaded in both directions and is therefore linear. etc.

    Quite frankly, there are so many moves that are semi or fullcircular I cant really give a good answer to your question. It would be better if you researched these by your self. Usually you can evade the fast moves to both directions, and circular moves are usually bit slow.

    Some characters have however certain signature fullcirculars:
    Jacky /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif mid fullcircular, Vanessa shadow slicer /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif Lion /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif both mid fullcirculars.

    Lot of characters have low sweeps that are generally very punishable on block: Lion, Lau, Pai, Lei, brad, Kage, Shun, Sarah, etc. As you can see, most characters actually have moves that cannot be evaded easy. But its important to learn the weaknesses of those moves, and learn to punish them.

    Theres only one character in game who doesnt have fullcircular, Akira.
     
  3. VFnumbers

    VFnumbers Well-Known Member Content Manager Lei

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    i use the vf5 strategy guide and ofcourse vfdc to help me out
     
  4. Linzhuomin

    Linzhuomin Well-Known Member

    Dangit, just when vf#### was starting to catch on.
    I'll get that to stick, I swear!
     
  5. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    Pay attention to which half-circ's you can throw, as 90% of people I play evade away from the screen.

    This won't dramatically improve your game or anything but every little bit helps
     
  6. smb

    smb Well-Known Member

    don't forget about cozby###
    lol, i started to feel left out, thought about changing my name to have some ##s in it.
     
  7. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    yah', i m not too down with someone changing my topics name cause they don't know what it means. WTF, i wrote it so i named it what i wanted. i hate how nit-picky advice gets around here. i just want a general answer like 'it's best to evade towards jackys back' or some such. I realize everybody has full circs and a variety, and u do diff things in diff situations. i know i know. Its like if a noob asked what throw 2 escape vs wolf and i explained every throw wolf has, and tne merits of fuzzy gaurd, duck dash, etc, etc,etc,etc, when really all that is needed to say is forward and throw is his strongest so do it. oh well, my rant is over
     
  8. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    Here's something from the original thread on this...

    Here's the original list:

    This is an evade side chart published in tougeki damashi Vol 7.
    It gives advice on which side to evade against each character.

    Akira : Stomach side
    Aoi : Back Side
    Brad : Stomach side
    Eileen : Stomach side
    El Blaze : Stomach side
    Goh : Stomach side
    Jacky : Stomach side
    Jeffry :Stomach side
    Kage : Stomach side
    Lau : Stomach side
    Lei fei :Stomach side
    Lion : Back Side
    Pai : Stomach side
    Sarah :Back Side
    Shun : Stomach side
    Vanessa : Back Side
    Wolf : Stomach side

     
  9. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    Re: vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars

    You are right, I had no idea what your topic was about and changed it to the best of my knowledge what you were trying to ask. I changed it to include vf#### now :p.

    If you hate having your topics moderated, then I suggest using PMs, especially since it seems to be directed to only vf####.

    If you post something on the public forums, you should expect your posts/topics to be moderated. If you have a problem with it, you can provide feedback to how this website should be run in the "Feedback Forum." If you think I overstep my role, you can PM directly to Myke about it.
     
  10. VFnumbers

    VFnumbers Well-Known Member Content Manager Lei

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    Re: vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars

    learn your opponents tendencies of their favorite half circulars by watching replays and practice recognizing it and watching foot position of ur opponent
     
  11. smb

    smb Well-Known Member

    lol, or, and call me crazy,
    we could all just calm down. I'm social ruin isn't too upset that you changed the name of his thread. And i'm sure akai doesn't really want you to report him to myke. And i'm sure he could have held off on changing the name of the thread to see if it made sense to anyone. and i'm sure you guys are pleased with my stepping in to moderate.
     
  12. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    no, i was just being bitchy. I couldnt change it back, lol. as 2 pm-ing him...well, we all really like this forum and like having new topics to post on, and well heck gerns came in and gave me exactly what i was looking for--assuming he didnt mislead me cause he hates me lol. But seriously, there are not enough good topics without me going private on it. thanks for moderating and talking me down from that ledge
     
  13. Linzhuomin

    Linzhuomin Well-Known Member

    Re: vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars

    The reason why is because general answers can cause some (not necessarily you, but think about the trolls) people to think that the general answer is the absolute answer, then they go and make it reflexive, and wonder why they have problems against high level jackies for example.
    Plus, sometimes people like to go into threads and dig up a time when you were wrong about something. And nothing beats quick answers for quote-mining purposes;p
    Just like a little reminder that nothing defends against everything... (at least this is my theory as to why people do that)

    Hehe, don't be emo buddy;) In reality, the topic name was just teasing me anyway lol.
     
  14. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    Re: vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars

    Obviously some of these are debatable but it's a great start. I think Jeff's deadly Kenka Hook guards his stomach so it seems a little dangerous (this has been mentioned before too.)

    With Lion, his /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif covers his back so I used to love when people dodged to his back just because that move is easy, fast and heavily delayable...

    Basically following this list will help though IMHO...
     
  15. VFnumbers

    VFnumbers Well-Known Member Content Manager Lei

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    Re: vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars

    in terms of evading lei most of his normal stance move 6k+g,4k+gk 6pp,8k+g, 66p+k, k+g r evaded towards his stomach and only k is evaded to his back side.
     
  16. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    Re: vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars

    lol i JUST just 8k+g'd you on a failed evade man!

    nvm you evaded the next ones i threw at you yeah your just a jesus half-circ evader
     
  17. VFnumbers

    VFnumbers Well-Known Member Content Manager Lei

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    Re: vf####: your secret to evading half-circulars

    lol i had to watch ur foot position to determine which way to evade when ur in normal stance
     

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