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DRE said:

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Saying that Hreruru was at the top of his game was also wrong, if any of you have ever seen him play, he gets these like long winning streaks that take like hours some times to break, not the case of Seg'a World Finals, nearly every match for him was a comeback match.

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Long winning streaks at the local arcade is impressive, but it means nothing when you're facing the absolute best players in the country. Chibita gets long winning streaks also, and we all saw what happened in the tournament. As far as I'm concerned, the fact that Heruru accomplished what he did against two very high-level players (Homestay and Soutaisho) means he was at the top of his game, or very close to it. His match against Homestay was one of the most amazing Lei-Fei matches I've ever seen.

In the end, I think it's clear that Minami was the better player that day. Even when he lost a round, the matches still seemed to be going according to his pace, not the other player's. That's just my opinion though. /versus/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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And again I have to disagree with this post, if you can recall from the Daioh_hixxxxx_3, and Daioh_hixxxxx_6, you will se Minami get beaten by players who are worse than he is , why, becuase everyone, Chibita, Mukki and all else who attended Daioh that day just started screaming for the other player, especially in Daioh_hixxxxxx_06.

Yes Heruru played some amazing games, but just like the Tg Vf Evo finals, he lost. The match against Homestay was freaking unbelievalble, considering the + and combo startings. And the comebacks + Excellent!! victories got the crowd insane, (I lost my voice I remember, lol). And also when you say best players in the country, you might as well say best players in the world.

Becuase when you pit an average Dualshock toting American VF player against an average Japanese aracde player, at an arcade (the only place VF should be played competitively), it is pretty much gg.

I still retain my stance that Yono, Heruru, Chibita and others could easily have beaten Minami in their respective matches, but Minami never got nervous and just played.

One example is when ever Minami would EVER start winning a match, the crowd (which was composed of mainly seasoned VF veterans) would always act shocked.

This is becuase Minami was beating better players, alot better players, like when he beat Chibita no one really clapped, they just stared.
And listen to the Sega AM2 clips of the finals, you will notice how when Minami wins, everyone is just like "Aaaawww, and Ohhhhhh" not "Congrats" , or cherring/clapping.

 

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I still retain my stance that Yono, Heruru, Chibita and others could easily have beaten Minami in their respective matches, but Minami never got nervous and just played.

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I just wanted to point out the obvious. They didn't easily beat him. He beat them. so your statement is incorrect or based in some other time line.

All that matters is what happened not what could have happened.

GE

 

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GodEater said:

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I still retain my stance that Yono, Heruru, Chibita and others could easily have beaten Minami in their respective matches, but Minami never got nervous and just played.

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I just wanted to point out the obvious. They didn't easily beat him. He beat them. so your statement is incorrect or based in some other time line.

All that matters is what happened not what could have happened.

GE

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That makes no sense (to me), and could you please elabortae?

Thanks-

-Empnova

 

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And again I have to disagree with this post, if you can recall from the Daioh_hixxxxx_3, and Daioh_hixxxxx_6, you will se Minami get beaten by players who are worse than he is , why, becuase everyone, Chibita, Mukki and all else who attended Daioh that day just started screaming for the other player, especially in Daioh_hixxxxxx_06.

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Wasn't that a Kage player? If it is, that's not the same Minami. I think you're referring to the infamous "low-punch-alot" Minami. I'll have to take a look at those clips again.


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I still retain my stance that Yono, Heruru, Chibita and others could easily have beaten Minami in their respective matches, but Minami never got nervous and just played.

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You say they could easily have beaten him (which is an opinion you're entitled to), but the fact of the matter is, they didn't.

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One example is when ever Minami would EVER start winning a match, the crowd (which was composed of mainly seasoned VF veterans) would always act shocked. This is becuase Minami was beating better players, alot better players, like when he beat Chibita no one really clapped, they just stared. And listen to the Sega AM2 clips of the finals, you will notice how when Minami wins, everyone is just like "Aaaawww, and Ohhhhhh" not "Congrats" , or cherring/clapping.

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I don't think this has anything to do with skill level. Of course you're going to hear that kind of reaction when the crowd favorite gets eliminated. Chibita losing at a tournament like this shouldn't be a shock to anyone, considering the other players that were involved. As you've stated, these are the best players in the world.

I've seen a couple of Minami's matches a few months prior to the tournament and was impressed by him back then, so I wasn't that shocked to see what he did at the tournament. I think you're overusing the term "choke". The facts speak for themselves.

 

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That makes no sense (to me), and could you please elabortae?


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I'll let Dre elaborate since his viewpoint is the same as my own. See below.

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You say they could easily have beaten him (which is an opinion you're entitled to), but the fact of the matter is, they didn't.


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GE

 

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DRE said:

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And again I have to disagree with this post, if you can recall from the Daioh_hixxxxx_3, and Daioh_hixxxxx_6, you will se Minami get beaten by players who are worse than he is , why, becuase everyone, Chibita, Mukki and all else who attended Daioh that day just started screaming for the other player, especially in Daioh_hixxxxxx_06.

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Wasn't that a Kage player? If it is, that's not the same Minami. I think you're referring to the infamous "low-punch-alot" Minami. I'll have to take a look at those clips again.

Sorry but I always tend to call Minami Akira just plain Minami, I am too used to it, only a week ago I met the Minami Kage.

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I still retain my stance that Yono, Heruru, Chibita and others could easily have beaten Minami in their respective matches, but Minami never got nervous and just played.

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You say they could easily have beaten him (which is an opinion you're entitled to), but the fact of the matter is, they didn't.

I have seen all of them beat Minami AKIRA, Chibita got an exellent I am almost 100% positive.

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One example is when ever Minami would EVER start winning a match, the crowd (which was composed of mainly seasoned VF veterans) would always act shocked. This is becuase Minami was beating better players, alot better players, like when he beat Chibita no one really clapped, they just stared. And listen to the Sega AM2 clips of the finals, you will notice how when Minami wins, everyone is just like "Aaaawww, and Ohhhhhh" not "Congrats" , or cherring/clapping.

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I don't think this has anything to do with skill level. Of course you're going to hear that kind of reaction when the crowd favorite gets eliminated. Chibita losing at a tournament like this shouldn't be a shock to anyone, considering the other players that were involved. As you've stated, these are the best players in the world.

I've seen a couple of Minami's matches a few months prior to the tournament and was impressed by him back then, so I wasn't that shocked to see what he did at the tournament. I think you're overusing the term "choke". The facts speak for themselves.

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All of the players were saying things like quote "Chibita slipped up" which is synonymous (spelling?) with choking. Also I remember the loudest person on the floor (quite funny too) saying he had never seen Minami AKIRA play like that before, and most people said that they agreed.

The most impressive things I have seen of him are a match where he just reversed the heck out of a LeiFei player, and one where he got destroyed by an inferior Jacky player, who got swamped by Chibita in the next match.

 

My two cents..

I think you are going in circles.

Many of the guys here have repeatedly said that it’s not a question of ‘Why’ or ‘How’, it is a matter of ‘Who’ wins the national tournament, THAT counts.

Even if there is some truth to your statement about Chibita or Heruru being a better player than Minami, but at the end of the day it was Minami Akira who gave the best performance and he won. That’s that.

ON your note…Heruru and many of the top-tier players choked during the finals and Minami did not?

Then again, we are talking about the world’s top-tier players here and I believed that most of their skill levels are pretty close to each other or even at par. And at such high level of competition, one simple mistake or one wrong anticipation of moves could get you shredded or even cost you the match. On that note, it all boils down to whoever is in a better state of mind and makes the least mistakes, he will be the one standing in the ring at the end of the match.

If Chibita, Heruru and the majority of the top players 'slipped' during the tournament finals and Minami did not, well, IMO that’s even the more reason for Minami to truly deserve the title of being the best. Afterall, a real champion is not just about how good you are, also equally important is your ability to maintain your mental state when under extreme pressure and continue to play your best. Minami Akira has achieved that during the Kakutou Shinseiki 2 finals and won. He is the best. Period.

 

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Minami just took the hint from the commentators that "if you start to watch heruru dance, you will die." You can clearly see that when ever heruru retreated back, minami simply applied more pressure to prevent him from dancing. I'd say he adapted really well, and obviously his "akira step" also added to his victories. Some of the other famous players just seemed to have<font color="red"> CHOKED</font> pretty bad that day.

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You should also visit The Kakuto opinions site for more players opinions

edit: bogus url changed to protect the innocent! - Myke

 

I'm feeling a big warning coming towards empnova /versus/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

Hey Myke. Can we ban this asshole for linking a site that is designed to fuck with your computer through java pop-ups. I lost an entire days worth of work thanks to this retard.

GE

 

OK. I guess it might not just me after I read Nybec's

post. I clicked on the link above, and I've got nothing

but millions of pop-ups that made me reboot my

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Myke, Please.

 

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Tsuchikumo will always be the better player, becuase you don't see him RO'ing him self to fight weaker players.

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I have to jump in here to say that Yoro did that to avoid a situation where good players are eliminated towards the beginning of the rounds. He did it so the other kage player will advance. In fact, yoro doing that and then winning the title scramble proves that he truly is one of the top kage players. Letting himself lose and coming back to win the event is a harder task than what tsuchikumo accomplished at the pai scramble battle. He didn't even make it to the finals. Your reasons for your thought are completely wrong and misinformed.

Discovering combos imho also doesn't say anything about how good you are as a vf player. Anyone can sit there in training mode and find combos, but not everyone can play against someone in a match that mattered and pull through to win. No matter how flashy his combos may be, if he can't use it to win, it doesn't mean a single thing.

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empnova said:

Ok, my name is Sean Cummings, I am half American and half Japanese, my father is an American army officer, and my mom is his Japanese wife. I have to move every two years, last year I was in NY, now I am in Japan (next year is Korea, hot shit!!!)



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Hmmm kinda OT but why would someone in Japan need to import the soundtrack?

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Maybe I'm just a naturaly skeptical person.

 

I think it's the Virginian IP address he has.

Ah well, I'm beating a dead horse here, but I'm just sad I couldn't have taken the honors, as I was in Tokyo at the time. Still, I am bemused by the way morons tend to eventually bring their own downfall upon themselves.