VF5 Combo Lists

Now available on VFDC are character Combo Lists, accessed in the upper left Site Menu.

These are currently populated with all the Black Book combos from the character wiki pages. There are errors and lots of omissions, but it's a start. With this consistent format for displaying combos, it is my hope that it will become easier to update and maintain.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>How to read?</span> Read the legend for a full explanation, but basically each hit requirement (n=NH, c=CH) is listed in a character and stance specific column. Very much like hk-vf.net's combo list format for those familiar. Any particular notes will be noted with each combo. Combos are grouped according to the combo starter.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Sort?</span> Basic sorting is possible on the Damage column. Reset the sort by clicking the Combo column.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Filter?</span> Basic filtering is possible on the damage values or combo notes.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Want to help?</span> Currently, all wiki authors are able to update the combos online. Alternatively, if you want to help then let me know!

Current users enlisted for Combo duty:

Akira - danny13
Aoi
Brad - Myke
Eileen
El Blaze
Goh - Leonard_McCoy
Jacky - Auvii, Krsjin
Jeffry - KoD
Kage - Myke
Lau - J6Commander
Lei Fei - BlackDragon37, MystD
Lion - Chibitox
Pai - akai
Sarah
Shun
Vanessa - Chefboy_OB
Wolf - Beligerent_Feck

 

Please note that Jeffry, Shun and Vanessa do not have their combos entered into the database yet. Hopefully these will get done soon.

Pro-tip: if you hover your mouse over a character cell containing "n" or "c", then you'll get a nice tool tip displaying the Character, Stance and Hit Type.

 

ice-9/Manji: I've moved your replies from the kage thread to here, as it's more appropriate as general feedback.

It's a good idea, but right now it'd be a royal pain to go over everything again to determine if a blank cell is really "n/a" or "untested".

Either way, you'll be forced to actually test the combo unless you already know the character/hit/stance requirements.

As a general rule, a combo with completely blank character cells is untested. While partially filled cells can be considered "good enough" ?

There's also the case of "recommended" combos. For example, a combo that's recommended for the heavy weights may only have the heavy weight cells filled in, with the rest of the cast empty even though the combo still works on them. If you go ahead and fill every character cell, you kind of lose that immediate visual impact of being a heavy's only combo (recommended), and then would have to rely on the fine print in the note.

Thoughts?

 

Manji, I'll look into it. But I don't want to go overboard with the information being presented for fear of overwhelming the reader.

Auvii, in addition to KoD's reply, the Black Book combos are by no means complete. Remember, this guide was released during Ver.B (PS3), but in Ver.C many new combos became possible and are most likely missing from the combo db.

The Black Book combos were just are starting point. I'm hoping we can grow and evolve it over time. I'm also hoping that I can appoint at least one VFDC member to take responsibility for maintaining one character's combos.

If you're interested please let me know here.

 

Updated first post with current user list for combo editing.

I've listed which character they're most likely to work on, so if other users want to help, especially on characters not covered, let me know and I'll give you access.

Combo Authors: Please post any updates you make in the respective character combo thread.

 

Leonard, thanks for your feedback.

Regarding colours only, this doesn't work well for b&w printing so that's why the text is there too. I chose yellow for CH because that's the colour in game. I struggled to choose the NH colour since it's white in-game, and opted for orange since it's easy on the eye (sits well next to yellow, and isn't as "bright")

As for the C|O sub column headings, I originally had that but it looked redundant and rather confusing visually:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Code:</div><div class="ubbcode-body ubbcode-pre" style="height: 34px;"><pre>|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|C|O|</pre></div></div>

In other words, I don't think it makes look-ups any easier. If you just remember that each character has a closed and open stance column then you're set. Additionally, mouse-over tooltips on each cell contain all the info you need.

 

Forgot to respond to this:

I've been thinking of the best way to implement this. Originally I had thought of creating an RSS feed for each character. Subscribers to the feed will be notified when there's a change, but they won't know what exactly changed. To communicate what changed I would have to introduce a new free text field. This would require the editors to add an appropriate comment with every update for this to be meaningful.

Is the RSS feed good enough? I don't think combos are something that should be changing frequently anyway, so I don't want to overdo the revision control aspect.

I like how you've added notes in the combo thread. That might be a good compromise, and is similar to what we do with the Command List updates.

For now I'm leaning toward the RSS since it should be pretty straight forward to generated. But, I'm open to any other suggestions.

 

Added Beligerent_Feck, BlackDragon37 and MystD as combo editors.