VF5R movelist is out!

http://rapidshare.com/files/132273359/vf5r_all.pdf.html

 

I downloaded it but couldn't open it. Acrobat reader spouted something about a bad encrypt dictionary.

 

Wow, I'm seeing a lot of new stuff for Akira.

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New Chain Combo?
Execution looks similar to Stun Palm Move.

 

Yeah it looks like that's the command for the combo that Akira did to Lei near the beginning of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ADZy3y3miU

Also, did you notice that his DLC and AS3 have easier inputs? It probably means they do less damage now /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

Looks like they took out /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif_ /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif & /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif_ /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/ub.gifK

Oh well...

I wanna figure out the command for Vanessa's new shoulder move...and also what /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is...

hmmm...

 

They changed Akiras /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

ARRRGH

I mirrored it to my own FTP, here:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~jplaukka/vf5r_all.pdf

EDIT: ARRRRGH when will they give up the fucking simplifying of MOVES!!!

Im gonna migrate to some other game soon /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
AS3 simplified, DLC simplified, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif apparently counts as both kicks now (there goes those semi-combos after break guard and ST now too) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif followup simplified...Where will they draw the fucking line?!

That list is like straight outta some fucking DOA! In fact DOA will soon have more difficult inputs!

 

I lol at people saying "i'll quit the game because they made some moves easier to execute." get real man.

 

^ For real, man.

 

Manjimaru, you are an idiot.

 

As long as the knee and the SPOD remain semi difficult then I'm happy.

How funny would it have been if SPOD was changed to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif and knee was changed to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif?

 

The knee should give + on block, considering its difficulty.

 

I guess you're right, it should go from being -13 in VF5 Ver.C to +4 in VF5R on block...

lmao

Difficulty of a move should never determine it's safety/hit properties, a launcher that gives half bar combos on hit/MC and you want it to be SAFE on block? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Knee has been made progressively MORE unsafe on block since VF3TB/VF4 (and even then it was around -10...but asking for it to give + frames, lol).


Anyhow it will be interesting to check out new movelists when I get the chance.

 

Knee should be equal in damage to the yoho and still be the one frame faster. THAT would be ok. But no, so now its basically inferior to yoho in stats. In practise it isnt cause yohos hitbox sucks donkey balls and it cant hit a bloody barn door. Lackluster knee aircombos due to weak damage piss me off still.

Akira is imo a character who suffers possibly the most out of the VF5 hitbox issues, so I guess Im waiting to see how much R changes that. Waiting to be positively surprised.

It doesnt take half.

 

I know. But I rounded up. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Call it over 1/3 of a bar then.

And I was using the distinction safe on block = + frames, un-punishable on block = -1 to -9 before anyone is confused lol. I don't see -1 to -9 as being "safe" seen as tho you're at disadvantage (however small or large).

But if I, as a defender, block a SPoD, yoho or knee, i.e. something that's going to take a chunk of damage, I want to be rewarded with something!

Apologies for OT ramble.


EDIT:

DLC and ABC have been simplified AGAIN!

DLC = /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

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(just seen it's already been mentioned lol but damn...)

 

I'm guessing AM2 is seeing the technicalities of difficult moves as increasingly irrelevant.

By that I mean they've gone the Soul Calibur route; make the moves easy/easier so that the depth of the gameplay is more focused on and less on the controls.

 

I agree. As an example; it seems that Brad's old sway back /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on hit or guard has been refined into /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. I'm overjoyed as I'd always found it hard to execute in a pinch.