Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown

Well, those characters who can stomachcrumple staggered opponents for an easy low throw attempt (Wolf ; Blaze ; Aoi iirc) are probably not that glad they lost a bunch of stagger opportunities

 

Yeah, like Marlyjay said, there are no stomach crumple -> low throw options anymore. Furthermore, Aoi's + doesn't cause stomach crumple on stagger/MC. I causes "balls" crumple

Anyway, I prefer guaranteed damage/frame advantage over a stagger, even though staggers sometimes allow sick setups.

 

Replace "easy low throw attempt" with "damaging stomach/vital crumple combo" then My point was that not all characters are affected equally by this system change.

 

Here's some frame data in addition to what was posted by Hollasan for Akira much earlier. I used the Masters Guide when composing these tables.

Akira (Translated and posted by Hollasan, not me)
Brad (Second table contains stance data from Arcadia)
Jeffry
Vanessa


Ash was doing Wolf's, but he was testing a slide at work and got stuck in it. So it might take him a couple more years.




EDIT: Expect some errors in the notes sections. I'm still working on translating that information.

 

I have a lot of school stuff going on right now so my Masterguide won't be of much use for a while, but when I have time I can do Pai/Aoi and whoever else.

 

I'll do Sarah, but after that my translation skills won't be of much use since other characters have kanji in their move names.

 

oh this stuff is just delicious. I look forward to doing some nice theory fighter with this when it's all done. . . since it'll be a while until I'll see the game.

If ever.

 

So umm... yeah... FS for consoles? No news? How long has FS been in arcades now?

 

Well FS Ver.A has recently been teased on a trailer... Doubt it's dropping by anytime soon :T.

 

Nice read about the changes in FS. If all goes well, i hope to travel there in the next 2 yrs or so if i can save up ( :
Just curious..

U mentioned off a failed evade if u get hit by a low attk it'll be a CH. Some moves knockdown on MAJOR CH and not on MINOR CH or recovery CH i think.. For example goh's 3K+G, if i hit someone with 3K+G will it be Considered major or minor CH on failed evade?

shit i thought i posted this in the one day in TOKYO THREAD sorry.

 

I'll admit I'm lazy, but I also don't know how I would search for this in the forum.

WIth the changes to speed of throws and the lack of 0f throw I'm wondering what this means for some defensive options.

Specifically I want to know if crouchdash-canceling for fuzzy guard still applies for moves that leave you at -6?

 

If itss back to 9frame throws then fuzzying actually works better

 

You have more frames to block the mid in FS. Fastest mids are 13 frames.I hated fuzzy in Vanilla because I would often get staggered trying. I thinking more on the back end than being able to get under the throw.

 

i have a question about jumps. How do they work exactly? I saw something like then an attack like or Does that mean in FS we can jump just pressing or or plus ?

 

Because throws are 12 outside of 0 frame and mids are 14 It always felt like I couldnt stand in time. When I played evo it felt like as soon as i went neutral or forward on the stick that I was considered standing