What Improvemenents do u think Sega should make to Virtua Fighter Evo?

I think that Sega should definetley make a vast improvement on Virtua Fighters Story line. Now we all know that Evo's graphics are gonna be mind blowing when it comes to sony soon, and that the 2 new characters Brad and Goh are pretty cool, but i think that if Sega Improves the story line itwould be a hell of alot better because u get in to the game more. A perfect example is the Tekken series. Its so popular cuz of its story line. What do u think? All opinions are open.

 

I'll give my honest opinion. I think storylines are retarded. It's a fighting game, not an RPG. If any improvements are to be made to the game, i'd rather someone at AM2 spending time improving the gameplay, but not the storyline. I've yet to meet anyone who plays VF with any seriousness to give a shit about the storyline.

cheers,

 

Hey man the storylines/character profiles/etc make for good reading when your on the throne. /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

 

For every 1000 people who have walked into the arcade and decided to try tekken for the first time... maybe one person knew the storyline beforehand. Out of all the people who keep coming back to tekken, I don't think any of them do it because Heihachi wants to kill Jin because the condom Jin lent him had a hole in it and Nina got pregnant (or whatever). They come back because like to see someone get their leg broken or have their nuts smashed or they want to see someone get juggled with a 7 hit combo. Or they like the idea of competing one on one instead of playing against the computer.

Anyway, I don't have any suggestions for evo because evo is done. They just released version B and I think that'll be the last version. If there's a version C, it won't have major gameplay system or graphics changes, it'll have the same changes version B did: damage tweaks, attack speed and recovery changes, a few new items, etc.

Maybe you meant to ask how sega would improve for Virtua Fighter 5. If that's the case, there's a recent thread with VF5 speculation here.

 

Mind blowing it looks, on Naomi2 that is.
On PS2 it looks nice enough for being on PS2.

 

I dont think that they should try to improve the storyline but they should try to make little things more obvoius. Like the fact that Lei Fei is trying to kill lau, when those little taunting bits come on just before a fight e.g when wolf says "shut up just come" they could do some thing where lau and lei face off or with pai and lau cause there father and daughter aint they.

 

I care about storylines. Just because it's fun and I'm a geek.

But yeah, that's why they're making a separate VF RPG game - so the storyline doesn't get in the way of the fighting game at its base.

As for Tekken's storyline... it's stupid. I don't understand how anyone can take it even remotely seriously.

"He got thrown into a raging volcano, but now he's BACK and BADDER THAN EVER!"

 

Me & the fellas geek on the story a little too. We got the cartoons...as anime I imagine they leave much to be desired but as cartoons, stuff ain't bad. When you play the same 5 dudes 8 gazillion times, occasionally to keep the trashtalk & gamesmanship interesting and effective you have to do things like invoke the relationships of the story, scream "SPLAAASHHH MOUNNTAAAAAINNN" at the appropriate moment or attribute your losses yesterday to nothing but the nefarious meddlings of the top-secret J6 cartel.

 

finally someone who aint "afraid" to say they care about VF's storyline!

i also do care for it, no harm in that.

 

maybe they should have dropped evo and put the work time and money into VF5.
anyone with me on this one

 

I think the only time the storyline for VF will really matter is if AM2 went as far as to incorporate it into the battles.
AM2 should make the prefight taunts character specific example, Lei will say a certain line when fighting Lau and a different line to other characters.

And if AM2 is gonna have better storylines, it'd be pointless if they didnt do something about the ending CGs.

I think all of this would be nice to have and would be something extra to talk about, but I really couldn't care less if there was no storyline or CG ending.

I'm more interested in new moves, adn new character outfits and items and different stages, etc...

 

Re: What Improvemenents do u think Sega should make to Virtua Fighter

That would be GREAT if you're willing to wait another 4 years.

AM2 ain't Capcom, they work on LONG development cycles.

 

Think of it this way... if Goh and Brad stay in VF5 (along with the new items and the small gameplay tweaks)... then the time and money WAS put into VF5. We're just getting to play a special happy little part of VF5 early.

Also, it's important to sega to make their games as fair and fun as possible... they do that by releasing upgrades. Evo has new characters, but more importantly the other 13 characters got tons of tweaking... unfair moves were toned down, semi-useless moves were beefed up, new moves were added, float properties were changed...
This is all well-spent time and money because it makes sure we don't spend several years playing version A garbage and suffering intensely from boredom while we wait for the next game.

 

i see your point and i agree but evo was to simalar in my opinion.
the other VF games changed drasticaly but evo did't really.

 

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finally someone who aint "afraid" to say they care about VF's storyline!

i also do care for it, no harm in that.

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Wow, that's a side of Sal. That I thought that I would never hear. And all this time I thought you only care about the fighting part of VF, hehehe. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

Just so there's no confusion, evo IS virtua fighter 4. It says so right on the title screen. Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution. It's not Virtua-Fighter-5-Just-With-A-Different-Name. It bothers me that anyone would imply that evo is a waste of time and money, or that Sega didn't do enough work to make it a "new" game. It's NOT a new game, it's an upgrade to VF4.

So what would you rather have... what seems more fair to VF fans?

Option A - Sega upgrades VF4 with gameplay/bug fixes, 2 new characters, new music, and new backgrounds... but releases those upgrades gradually, so we can enjoy them over a long stretch of time.

Option B - Sega changes a few backgrounds, adds 2 new characters, tweaks gameplay, releases it a few months after VF4, and calls it Virtua Fighter 5.

Option C - Sega doesn't give enough of a shit to release upgrades, so we suffer through gameplay issues, bugs, and the same boring backgrounds and music for literally 2 or 3 years while we wait for VF5.

To me it sounds like you'd like Option C, which doesn't make sense. Sega finds the time to give us something that keeps the game new and fresh and (most importantly) balanced. Without these upgrades the game would be dead after 3 months. How did Sega know to make DLC damage low in virtua fighter 4? Because it was lowered in VF3TB. Why was it lowered in VF3TB? Because sega saw that it was too high in VF3OB. Without the upgrade from VF3 to VF3: Team Battle... sega might never have realized that the DLC needed to be fixed. Akira in Virtua Fighter 4 could have started out with all the bullshit he had in VF3OB, plus the bullshit he has in VF4.

Anyway, I'll shut up. Sorry to preach at you. Sega works hard and deserves recognition for it, not "you're wasting your time".

 

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Just so there's no confusion, evo IS virtua fighter 4. It says so right on the title screen. Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution. It's not Virtua-Fighter-5-Just-With-A-Different-Name. It bothers me that anyone would imply that evo is a waste of time and money, or that Sega didn't do enough work to make it a "new" game. It's NOT a new game, it's an upgrade to VF4.

So what would you rather have... what seems more fair to VF fans?

Option A - Sega upgrades VF4 with gameplay/bug fixes, 2 new characters, new music, and new backgrounds... but releases those upgrades gradually, so we can enjoy them over a long stretch of time.

Option B - Sega changes a few backgrounds, adds 2 new characters, tweaks gameplay, releases it a few months after VF4, and calls it Virtua Fighter 5.

Option C - Sega doesn't give enough of a shit to release upgrades, so we suffer through gameplay issues, bugs, and the same boring backgrounds and music for literally 2 or 3 years while we wait for VF5.

To me it sounds like you'd like Option C, which doesn't make sense. Sega finds the time to give us something that keeps the game new and fresh and (most importantly) balanced. Without these upgrades the game would be dead after 3 months. How did Sega know to make DLC damage low in virtua fighter 4? Because it was lowered in VF3TB. Why was it lowered in VF3TB? Because sega saw that it was too high in VF3OB. Without the upgrade from VF3 to VF3: Team Battle... sega might never have realized that the DLC needed to be fixed. Akira in Virtua Fighter 4 could have started out with all the bullshit he had in VF3OB, plus the bullshit he has in VF4.

Anyway, I'll shut up. Sorry to preach at you. Sega works hard and deserves recognition for it, not "you're wasting your time".


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Well said. /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

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Wow, that's a side of Sal. That I thought that I would never hear. And all this time I thought you only care about the fighting part of VF, hehehe. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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hehe, i've been known to not think or pretend what a "hardcore" VFer SHOULD do/say. /versus/images/graemlins/smirk.gif i think the number one thing that would get you points down in vfdc's "hardcore vf meter" would be to say that you love to play mortal kombat. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif I TRY to be as neutral as I can.