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what's your dreams in virtua fighter tekken collaboration?

Discussion in 'General' started by mohamed_amervf5, Mar 31, 2022.

  1. mohamed_amervf5

    mohamed_amervf5 Active Member

    i think it would be great
     
  2. Mister

    Mister Well-Known Member Content Manager Wolf Content Manager Sarah Content Manager Aoi

    better netcode
     
  3. GustavoHeisenberg

    GustavoHeisenberg Well-Known Member

    Won't work if you understand how incompatible the gameplays are despite both being 3D fighters.

    Tekken has "Characters"

    Virtua Fighter has "Fighters"

    Tekken has characters with extreme personality and flair, above all diversity of character. It's an analogue fighter: moves aren't always guaranteed to hit, there's a lot of lateral movement (footsie and wiff punishing). Balancing is extremely difficult with tiers being extremely important along with match ups. Tekken is a defensive game, bait for mistakes.

    Virtua Fighter lacks all the qualities above. It has "fighters" instead of characters, generally each fighter puts one in an extremely different mindset - there characters exploit different aspects of the fighting engine. Variations of the same character generally aren't a thing. It's a binary fighter: moves are almost guaranteed to hit, it's depth comes from a robust rock paper scissors, attitude, everything has a counter, even counters - no optimal strategy
    (footsies and wiff punishing almost don't matter). Balancing is easier because things are predictable, yet fighters aren't the same because they exploit different mechanics of the fighting engine. Virtua Fighter is a read/yomi game with advantage to offense.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2022
  4. Sonic The Fighters

    Sonic The Fighters Well-Known Member

    I take the roster of VF over the stupid roster of Tekken, every day of the year.
     
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  5. GustavoHeisenberg

    GustavoHeisenberg Well-Known Member

    I love what virtua fighter is once I understood why it is. I think VF would suffer if it stuffed more characters into the roster, and dare if I had to choose between trimming and adding, I'd choose trimming (BTW I love the cast now, Eileen especially grew on me, I know why she's very unique)
     
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  6. shad

    shad Well-Known Member

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    XBL:
    doct0r cube
    People like living games and new propositions.

    Only 1.5 characters added to the tiny roster of the game since 2006... See how popular is the game now compared to Tekken...

    Adding more characters for VF IS actually the best thing you could wish to VF franchise.

    VF6 doesn't need to have 40 characters like Tekken but there is a obvious midlle road to take for the game. I think reaching to 28 characters for VF 6 would be very VERY reasonable and low compared to other fighting games.
     
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  7. Sonic The Fighters

    Sonic The Fighters Well-Known Member

    Totally agree.

    VF lacks some new characters (a lot for a 2022 fighting game), i think they should add at least 5-6 characters for VF6.

    _To me the big flaws of VF5US are (in order) :
    - Bad online/netcode
    - No rebalancing or gameplay tweaking
    - No new characters
    - some characters faces are missed
    - FS had more items
    - PS4/PS5 exclusive and no crossplay with other platforms
    - No 4k patch for PS5
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2022
  8. GustavoHeisenberg

    GustavoHeisenberg Well-Known Member

    @shad
    @Sonic The Fighters

    I guess you guys really want to stuff the roster ("reasonably"), I understand that it's very popular - every successful fighting game does it. I'm curious how do you view that Pandora's box being opened. How do you see that affecting the soul of the game out of interest.
     
  9. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

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    lastmonk
    ahhh.... a small correction.

    Some people like living games and new propositions

    Others feel if its not broke don't fix it. Or Pacman, is Pacman, is Pacman we like Pacman the way it is. Some of us would have been happy with a full port of VF5FS to Playstation, Xbox, and PC.

    Hell, if RGG/Sega would've taken VF4EVO and added the online functionality of VF5US (minus the hit sparks) that would've been a smash hit. It would still be the talk of the FG community. Online lobbies would be relatively active and lively around the clock.

    I'm just sayin....:whistle:
     

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