Who does what?

why is this specific to Eileen? WHy would a Eileen player need more knowledge of other characters tp punish than say a Akira or Kage player?

 

Lots of good info so far. Thx, really helpful.

I'm almost done. Still fumbling around with the characters, but I'm starting to see what I like/don't like and who I enjoy using.

Is there anyone that can contribute for Aoi and the Chans?

 

<u>Aoi-pants</u>

Aoi has a lot of options and tools that can meet any situation. The counter to her well roundedness is the fact she doesn't do very much damage in comparison to the majority of the cast.

<u>Aoi and Combos: Damage? Where art thou?</u>

A fair comparison is between her and Jeffry: in order to win a match with Aoi you need at least four good guesses, whereas Jeffry can end a match with two /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif combos. Luckily for Aoi, unlike characters with damaging launchers (i.e. everyone else), making a bad guess isn't as bad as few moves are beyond jab on block.

<u>Aoi: Un-Bigoted towards those of different weights and stances </u>

Though a few of her combos are stance specific, they're generally easy to do, and though you sacrifice guaranteed damage by doing so, you can pretty much /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (lesser extent) on everyone, regardless of weight or stance. This is very easy to do, so if you every forget your best combo options, use the basics. *Remember that it is better to at least get damage off of your launcher than landing one and messing up entirely.

*<span style='font-size: 8pt'>I do not advise Aoi players to just stick with these combo enders as it is better to get the maximum damage, because with Aoi, taking every hit point really matters, unlike characters who can make up for it with a fast /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, more damaging throws, etc. They're just a safe option in case you just might F-up the combo. Practice, practice, practice; I know I still need to.</span>

<u>Aoi: the bulldog</u>

Though Aoi has a slow /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, she is still very capable of a rush down, as she has several fast attacks, all with good properties:

A. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is a powerful string if used correctly. The /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif portion is all mid, combos to a knockdown, are both half-circs, and both can be /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-canceled.
B. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is a 12i <u>half-circ</u>, if the first hits, the rest are guaranteed. The damage isn't much to brag about, but realize: 12i <u>half-circ</u>. Not to mention it sobers the hell out of Shun.
C. [edit!!!] /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is a 13i <u>half-circ</u>, combos on normal hit for a knockdown. The second hit is unsafe on block, but it can be /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-canceled. Use the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-cancel even if the first hit connects sometimes and attempt a throw. This is an awesome and fast whiff punisher due to it's range. Check it out: look at her positioning in the ring, do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and "DID SHE JUST MOVE THAT FAR ON A 13i HALF-CIRC HIGH?!?!"
D. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is a 13i MID (Ver. C) that ducks highs at disadvantage. If Eileen blocks your /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif will duck under /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif and CH. Yes, you read that correctly, against 10i /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif at -8, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif wins (-9 vs. 11i /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, -10 vs. 12i /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif). Another fucking awesome thing about this move is it is a double limb attack. This means it can't be sabaki'd, and only another Aoi can reverse it. A staggering (on CH) attakc, that is the fastest non-/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif-dependent mid attack in the game that also ducks high attacks large disadvantage. The crap range is negated by a million fold.
E. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is a standard elbow attack except for two really good reasons: the second hit is half-cir and is a /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-cancel. However, being a high (the 2nd /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif), only do it if you're opponent is to dumb to duck it. Otherwise, learn to hit check with the first.
F. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is a 15i frame mid that knocks down on any hit as long as you don't delay it to long to where the opponent can just block it. It does decent damage and doing just /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif puts you in BT. From BT Aoi has some good options, i.e. the fastest true low in the came (/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif) and the evasive-throw-escape-simplifying /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif will crumple any evaded attacks, as long as the opponent is still in recovery.
G. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif(CH)/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif is a 52 damage (require CH) 15i attack that ducks a whole lot of attacks, even some mids (poor Jeffry). It's fast, does damage, puts people on the floor, and it looks awesome. What more could you ask for?
----arbitrary cut-off at 15i---- <span style='font-size: 8pt'>(you got the point though, I hope)</span>

<u>
Aoi: "You have /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif? How adorable."</u>

As the title suggests, most of the characters have a /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif that can be canceled. Aoi lacks this (stupid!), but she makes up for having so many others:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (goes to BT)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (a good way to close distance too)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (evasive-vs-high-backdash-alternative, though you should have not canceled it)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (goes to BT)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
BT /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
BT /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif

Now there are many tricks behind a cancel, all requiring a fair amount of yomi. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-cancel to BT is a good way to set up a BT /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif. Once they start guarding low, you can go for a low throw, or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif> low throw. If they try to attack use a sabaki or reversal (be creative).

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-cancels are basically ways for Aoi to set up her throw game.

<u>Aoi: "No Escape!"</u>

Though her throw game isn't as damaging as the heavy hitters, she still has many directions. Mix it up.

Her chain throws may be her most damaging options, but realize that a smart opponent will just mash /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif and break that shit. <span style='font-size: 8pt'>(not sure what else I can add here...)</span>

<u>Aoi at disadvantage: Doing what she is designed to do</u>

A number of her moves put her at disadvantage on normal hit, for most characters this would be a problem, but it is in this situation where a chunk of her movelist becomes viable.

Evasive attacks (crushers):
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, crushes highs and some of those higher mids (not advisable to use at higher disadvantage... in fact, use it at advantage for the most part, if not always, lol)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif//forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, crushes highs even at large disadvantage (like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, will find out more
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, will evade linear attacks or half-circs if you do it in the correct direction (will add props of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-cancel variants)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, as indicated earlier: it beats 10i /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif at -8, 11i /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif at -9, and 12i at -10
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif can be used to jump over lows, will update with the frame window (if I can figure out how to do it with a shit-dojo, probably only works at advantage anyway )

*note: BT /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, though the animation indicates it, cannot crush /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

Sabaki:
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, though it only sabaki's sidekicks, in some match ups /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif doesn't require that much yomi (Jeffry at range, Vanessa, Kage, etc)

Inashi:
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, depending on what move gets inashi'd, Aoi will get a different guaranteed follow up (don't remember the chart /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif )

Reversal:
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif_/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

<u>Aoi: In Conclusion</u>

As we can see, Aoi can fit many roles, either as an all-out offensive character (due to her very good fast attacks), a character full of insane mind games (through /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif-cancel usage), a grappler, and a defensive character.

Because of her damage output, the way to success is in mastering all of her facets.

Get to work.

 

Sebo... for all your sarcasm, you are amazing. So much info. We need a bay area gathering. I need some matches!

 

I share the same sentiment. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif ....... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif

 

oh I was saying that because she dosen't do much dmg per hit so she really needs to get max dmg everytime to do well. Though you are right that is something that all char players should strive to do.

 

Gah... thought of posting for Aoi back when this started, but knew you'd do a better job, Sebo, so I just waited. And, good lord... more move properties I never realized. Slow down please, I can't relearn my playstyle fast enough to keep up with your advice;;

 

Updated and finished (okay, it can never be finished). Read it, find errors, give feed back.

Can someone do the crap characters (i.e. Anyone not done yet, lol)?

I don't see how sarcasm is indicative of much. I just have several context-based-persona-eses. I didn't see a flame-war opportunity in this thread, and I'm happy with the sig, so I decided to play the "info-card" and be less of a dick-head (which is just an act).

But yeah, I could use some games. Get to 001's!!!! (please!)

Test it out, I know some of the shit I posted is too textbook, and real VF is never like that (i.e. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif 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Eileen's fundamentals and other goodness can be found here:

http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/167737#Post167737

and

http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=171731#Post171731

 

You wrote 33P several times there, sebo... which technically isn't a move for Aoi. I think you meant "Mu Sou Ha" which is 2_3P. Though for all I know, both inputs cause the same move.

 

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/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is faster to do than /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, etc.

Besides, it's faster to type /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif than it is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif as I don't like having to extend my ring-finger to hit "_".

 

I'm thinking /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is actually /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

Here's why...

Aoi also has /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and if you input /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, you'll get another Aoi move.

 

No, Aoi doesn't have a /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif attack.

It's like Kage's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

Wait, you play Aoi? lol /dick-response, sorry

No but seriously, test it out.

-----To below:

Yeah.

 

So the second /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif of the CD counts as the move input, too?

 

Should it really work to do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif instead of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif ?
I mean the two first /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif should be to get crouching then the third /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif would be for the actual move. If you only do two the game doesn't recognize it as crouching?

 

Ahem... try it.

 

works for me

 

I would've but the only TV is being used.

But apparently it's working. Sorry.

 

Then when the TV isn't in use: try it?

 

wait really this is huge info I have to go test this out right now!