If you bought VF4 when it was released, then your obviously engulfed in its deep gameplay and learning curve. What this topic was mainly started for is that I'm noticing that there are "TWO" types of VF players on here. The first are players that are only interested in the CPU aspect of the game i.e.(Kumite, Arcade, AI Training). The second being those that are playing Versus and Occasional Arcade mode. The difference between the two is this. The one that plays the CPU aspect of the game will get better at "BEATING THE CPU". And the one that is playing against human players has the ability to be as good as say...........................................the Japanese? Who knows =). When I first started playing VF I had a large amount of tekken experience playing against other opponents. When I converted to VF a lot of the VF players I noticed weren't warm at all with playing humans. While I would beat the seasoned VF players with timing, movement, and Yura, I would lose to the CPU a lot easier than say the seasoned VF players would. I am hoping that VF really takes off in the US and possibly guys that are playing will really push to put the US on the map for decent VF representation. I'm tired of the US rolling over and letting other countries i.e.(Korea, Japan, Australia, Singapore) dominate the VF scene. So I ask again, Why are you playing VF4? As a side thing thats fun and cool to see new outfits and items, and compare Wins/Losses in kumite with other players in a battle to see whose got the bigger genitalia? Or are you really looking to "GET GOOD", like what you see in the vids? This was more or less motivational if anything and welcome input on your views on this topic =). thanx.