Anyone checked out the four clips (more to come soon) that are currently up at Tekken Central? http://www.tekkencentral.com/eng/ Particularly Adam/versus/images/icons/smile.gif I think you're gonna like seeing this Paul in the first clip (White Smire), he just looks.... SO AKIRA!!!! grrrr... More like an Akira with less recovery on things/versus/images/icons/tongue.gif OMG.... I never realized I played Steve so similarly to Dumok... Really surprised as I haven't really been watching TK4 clips. Naturally, I'm not that good, but I swear it's almost identical to what I usually intend to do with Steve. If only OSU's machines didn't have diagonal issues (it's not as bad as some would like to believe, but it is bad still). The main difference with how I use Steve though, is that I almost always go for okizeme, in a risky way anyways. I usually try to launch the opponent with okizeme hehehe. -Chanchai PS Apparently, the big deal that people have been complaining about recently is Jin's b,f 2,1,d 2. Not because of the move or the delay property, but the fact that you can "Just Frame" it. I'm no expert on "Just Frame," but from what I hear, if you let go of 2 at the right time, the move will be unblockable. In this case, it's a real bitch because that move knocks you up in the air and is already not the easiest thing to escape.