Zero's VF5 matches

Hello. Dunno why I didn't do this sooner after keeping up on Truesonic's and tonyfamilia's threads but (I figure since I don't suck quite as hard anymore) its time that I shared my vids. I main Jeff, Pai and Eileen.

This is my playlist: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=90E2B07124B4AC77

When I first picked up VF5, I was still only familiar with VF4 ver. C Jeff and Pai (I couldn't get a 360 or VF4 EVO at the time, sorry ) so I decided to pick up Eileen.

This was my preliminary match vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iksIwELArkA&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=1

* In this one, I had reviewed most of the movelist, and only got a chance to glance at the blackbook combos. Most of the actions were based on my current VF knowledge and commonsense. I thought it was okay for the time.

These were my newb matches with main sparring partner, Zombieeeee who had just gotten into VF5 and hadn't yet gotten as obsessed over the game as I; he is also the owner of the 360 console and copy of VF5:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0wDP-Akmyk&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=2
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtTjmvtD2Ds&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=5
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wStSBaiiDK0&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=7

* These are basically me getting more and more used to the feel of Eileen and trying to differentiate her from my Jeff habits, although those with a keen eye can still see shades of my Jeffry in here. Also, feel free to laugh how Zombieee knows I can't react to that charge back move which staggers on block and abuses it. He still catches me with that sometimes - I see it coming and yet...I just freeze. I'm getting over it though, mostly by punishing it with a 6K or by adjusting my dodge time.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2uC3W6KKWE&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=3

* Here is my turning point; I finally get a chance to sit down privately with the game (its not my Xbox360, you see) and learn key moves, get a bit smarter and start memorizing black book stuff. Still rough, but notable because Zombieeeee starts taking a larger interest after this match because of my nagging, among other reasons.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zDfyUhxdRE&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=4
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx62hDmXcN4&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=6

* Matches of my Eileen against my friend Luna. Like me, he's a bit thrown off because he's so used to VF4 Vanessa Ver.C (we still play that game) and because he's not used to Eileen's positive Frame traps (check out the 6,6+K and how he thinks he can punish it) but he's still pretty decent because he's a smart player.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnr-1t0KZJw&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=12
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZrnIZnwylw&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=11
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsmx_kvgPdo&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=9
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbBE809KE1Y&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=10
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdezyQPuz1A&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=8

* This is finally where we start coming into our own and thinking up better strategies. Its in japanese, but if I recall correctly we're like 6th dans or so. Lots of bnb, punishes, sidesteps and the like. Both of us have trained and studied up and I think it shows. Zombieee finally went to the VFDC wiki and did some looking up, etc. I also am very comfortable. Also notable at this point how we go into "deadly serious mode" when an item is on the line. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif I also made my self a flow-chart for Eileen similar to the ones Ice-9 made in the VF4 era which in my opinion helped solidify my VF game a lot in those days (I am mainly a flow-chart based player); I need some sort of structure.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hnVlw6yyI4&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=18
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7o-kOf4vI&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=17
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6_dx-OGmE&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=16
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bMU88L81uI&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=13

* These vids are a prime example of a player who has studied his stuff and practiced, evidenced as these vids prove to me I cannot push him around anymore; Zombieeee uses reversals, punishes throw-counterable moves, pressure, etc. He even perfects my ass later.. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif


- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A9lzNSpCY&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=21
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWb2mgkPcU&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=19

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi_49zrE3jw&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=15
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TIbL1dshnM&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=14

These are the most recent. The first two are eileen matches, and the second where I pick up Jeffry again because I have had time with his VF4 EVO revision which is much closer than the Ver.C one. I still do not know all the mechanics VF5 ver. C Jeff has but this should still be pretty solid.

I will pick up Pai again after I have reviewed her VF4 EVO version again since I do not like playing with characters I do not feel I am completely comfortable with; her ver. C revision is too dated to work with.

So, yeah we're still quite rough but I'm very proud of how far we've come and especially proud of Zombieeee's dedication to get better (although maybe its fueled by the fact he likes to kick my ass).

For those bored with seeing the Zero/Zombieee match sessions, my friends whom I play VF4 with (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=ADBCE6B963F97792) (Ka, Mike, Mariner and so forth) have been unable to get with us due to our vastly different class schedules and other things we've been busy with. This should be changed this next semester with our different classes and the fact that I'm only taking one course.

Anyway, enough of my long-windedness, please discuss, criticize/whatever. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Damn. Maybe I should have split that into multiple posts; that's freakin' huge, lol.

 

Nice vids man, I only watched a few of the Eileen vs Goh ones but good play from you guys /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Are these online or local matches?

 

These are local, good sir. We play at my house, or down at the college.

 

Great matches you have a good grasp of the characters you play. I hope to play you some later in the future. Keep making the videos too.

 

One can see that you get familiar with the characters more and more. Once you have dived into the depths of defending oneself after moves with higher recovery times it'll be even much better. I'd also have a further look at the standard combos for Goh here on VFDC to pump your play (Zombie) even further: http://virtuafighter.com/combos/index.php?ver=5c&chara=goh.

 

Cool. Zombieeee now has an account on youtube, allowing me to contact him outside of college. I'll send him a link to your post; I'll recommend that he join the forums as well so you guys can speak with him.

 

My full VF crew has returned! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif The first batch of some of our matches:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L38yCqljn7M&feature=channel_page
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_pSJ9VURD4&feature=channel_page
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KOj9bCi2Ds&feature=channel_page
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYXs5d_8Gvc&feature=channel_page
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KTNdawYK8Q&feature=channel_page

 

More match vids uploaded. I have picked up my Pai again in VF5, although I have yet to learn her more advanced Black Book combos; gimme some time. In any case, enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Ergeniz&view=videos

We also had some recent VF4 EVO matches on there, if anyone is interested.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-bQPZkTYic&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_LV0U0bt08&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9YLxWeZpFE&feature=PlayList&p=90E2B07124B4AC77&index=32

Some (somewhat recent) matches we recorded in the past months, but I totally forgot about updating.

Anyway, not really the point of reviving my thread; Tony said that some people might like to see the VF4 EVO Disc Replays I'm uploading for reference purposes, so here is the playlist: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=ADBCE6B963F97792

I have all the VF4 ver.C replays already up, and I'm close to finishing the VF4 EVO ones; should have them all up sometime today. And of course, matches with me and my crew in both VF4 and EVO are in the playlist if anyone cares.

One of my favorites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSay274I1Mc&feature=PlayList&p=ADBCE6B963F97792&index=131