Evasive properties of Shoulderram

Following up the Lion thread, I tested Akiras shoulderram due to MarlyJays insistence, and lo and behold, it actually has evasive properties.
Heres what I found out so far:

Blocked (-5) -> +
Beats following attacks in following stance

Brad: low punch in both, in closed
Jeff: low punch in both, in closed
Goh: and low punch in closed
Sarah: lowpunch in both, in closed
Jacky: low punch in closed
Lau: Low punch in closed
Wolf: in open
Blaze: low punch in open
Lei: in closed

I may put together a video showcasing the properties so people get better idea. In some cases you need to delay the shoulderram a fraction, so the evasive properties must be in the very beginning of the move.

 

I couldn't help but notice you skipped Vanessa

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">I can't test ATM but, from memory, shldrm beats low punches both stances, OS both stances while it loses to DS both stances (that knee has a pretty low hitbox - contrary to OS which just flies over akira most of the time).

Basically the ideal solution for OS vane is to use OS or at -5 since they have low hitbox(es) - this is not akira specific btw, should also be used at -5 against goh's shldrm too and why not against lion's db+p or shun's d+k. Note that eileen has 10f jab so df+k can lose at -5. Also note that i've had akira's shdlrm go under DS sometimes, however this probably is stance/distance related - on the other hand DS floor scrapes if you'd rather get a sideturn than the hit-throw.

Anyway, take with a grain of salt; real testing would be greatly appreciated, don't forget to test against DS WS too </span>

 

Manji but you already knew this right?
It's not different from VF4 Akira either.

 

Nope. Couldnt get it consistent and some of these arent consistent either due to having to delay the ShRm. There are moves out there that are a lot more evasive than Akiras ShRm. Shoulderrams arent equal either.

I test with CPU set to block and counter, I cant do more. Tell me how to make CPU go into OS.. What wasnt mentioned above then ShRm didnt avoid those characters LPs or mids in any stance (couldnt test Vanes OS). I didnt 'skip'.

 

Your answer makes sense manji, there were a lot more characters than just vanessa "missing", i guess i'm just biased

 

This topic was for vf4evo.

 

Just a note, its possible that ShRm evades other slower attacks too, but I cant test those without a partner. If some people would like to, feel free to test.

 

manj ill tes with u.
I think the most important wants to test are BIG CH moves likes knees and sidekicks..
those should sufficient for now i guess?
Manj, btw..... are u sure GOH SHRD is different than akira.. the evasive properties?

 

YES

 

Something Ive been doing for over a year now, is
Its god like.Most opponents will 2p when they see standing palm, shrm goes under 2p and standing plm is+1 on block.

 

hey i do the same SETUP, except im at minus 4
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