Why pay for it when the community outside of JP are doing it for them, as well getting free feedback & ideas from the interactions among players as well as JPs. They already know how much time & money they need to spend to revive this Meme & they won't.

VF still retain it's title as Top Tier FG after seeing the reception of ES. If someone else made a completely revolutionary FG that made VF look like Tekken. Watch them go all in & without any hesitation.

One can only hope. With the FGC on a whole being fairly big, people gravitate towards other fighting games when they come out. It's just a matter of keeping them there.

Different strokes for different folks, but fairness and mechanics in a fighting game became an issue for me. VF5 is what got me back into fighting games (they really need to bring some movement options back) because it just felt like I can't get pinned down forever and I can fight back. Just comes down to guessing right on the constant dice rolls after every move is landed or blocked.. Every fg has something you have to work around, in VF it'd probably be
. Not letting players see and decline or accept matches definitely made this release lose a chunk of players. The legendary becomes a ridiculous issue to fight against because that's (in my opinion) one of the 4 basic cores of VF.
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The 3 fastest moves moves from each height and throws. Knowing the frame data for those is just about the extent of my knowledge (lol). After that it's just a dice roll on what you try. I don't know what the heck a spinning back fist from x character is on block or hit, but it still comes from one of these 4 seeds. You always have to factor in human reaction time, but dealing with those seeds and everything that grows from them in a bad connection is just a horrible experience. In my opinion, this game does have a good netcode when your connection to someone else is good. How to make that happen more often is beyond me, as is why when I'm connected to two different people from NY, and we're all wired, why is one connection silky and the other connection rough.. But, being able to choose possible good connections and decline bad ones is a must on release day to help keep players for the next VF.

VF6 will have a stage when it releases. After that burst that VF5US had, people will at least look at VF6 when/if it releases. Add those 4 basic cores to a tutorial that shows people what can happen after each of those hits and blocks. And when you strike back with each of those after they hit or are blocked. It's simple, but why not add it with everything else they have in the tutorial. Show people how to beat and use those 4 things. The game pretty much blossoms out from those 4 things. Show people why with demonstrations and let them try to copy the demonstration.

Speaking of tutorials, there needs to be demonstrations with inputs shown for them and the command training. For all of it. Not just some things.. It's frustrating to have to look outside of the game to figure out how to do what the game wants you to do. You don't want to put that wall up for new players.

Needs a good single player mode like VF5 had, for players to practice with characters and get used to them. Don't lock items behind the single player mode, though.

It's obvious but super important to have a good online experience. I love the new Samurai Shodown game, but I can't even play it because the online is so bad.

Knowing how to play a game and having a good online experience helps make a game fun. And that's what's needed to keep people.

And this is nit picky and personal, but, I would like to be able to cancel all of the dashes again. To my knowledge/with my attempts, we can't fuzzy guard backwards anymore, or cancel back dashes with forward dashes either, among other things we can't cancel into. Pretty sure we could do those things in VF5.

Yeah, but they removed those other options and that throws me off, lol. Because you used to be able to get pretty loose with the movement in VF5. I would just like em back because that's one of the reasons VF became my favorite fighting games. The freedom of movement you had and how nice it felt to not be restricted. Sure there's still things we CAN do, but they also removed somethings we could do. Last I "heard" was because they wanted to have backdashes punished harder when hit or something along those lines.

Not going to act like it's vital, or that I've played all 3D fighting games, but that's part of what made VF special/stand out in another way for me. They took it from me, and I politely ask for it back, lol

I think if sega didn't stay a bit silent on VF for so long, and if they didn't remove alot of moves, throws and attacks in VF5 FS, I think they might have sold over 40 million plus units by now. But 18 million units is still good to hear.

Well, VF5FS was a decade ago so we might have been up to VF7 or 8 by now.

If they didn't do what I mentioned above, it is possible they might have sold close to that number, like probably 15 million units. And as Adam mention, we might have had a VF7 and VF8 already, which would have made more sales.

VF5 FS and VF5 US are not bad games, but certain things sega did to VF, which in a sense kinda even extends before VF Final Showdown, which I mentioned above, kept alot of players away from both games, and games that were released before, which could have been, a big potential increase in sales for VF and sega. A few people and VF players, mentioned it on Max's VF5 US stream in June. And they brought up alot of valid points too. Including sega catering to esports, which turned people away from the game too. Because no one wants to hear Wolf, or Eileen, or Akira, or Vanessa, being nerfed again, to be esports/evo friendly. And not everyone is a fan of evo/Sony, or what is categorised for the past 2 decades, as esports friendly fighting games, like literally.

Virtuafighter 5 Ultimate Showdown

10 million downloads If Sega/RGG had included a decent Single Player Mode e.g. Quest Mode, A 16 player Tournament mode for VS mode that supported player vs cpu, player vs player, and cpu vs cpu along with all of the customization from VF5FS 30 to 40% of those 10 million downloads would still be actively playing VF5US today. There would have been plenty of time and money to beef up the e-sports online portion of VF5US. It was a massive marketing mistake to prioritize e-sports over Single Player and Offline VS Modes.

Sega and RGG had VF5US in front of 10 million potential VF converts, and the best they had to show the 10 million players was a bare bones online rank mode and a player match lobby. What a wasted opportunity 10 million downloads and no real content for newbies and casual players. Its highly likely that most of the 10 million downloads were totally new to VF and what did Sega/RGG show the newbies? A bunch of killaz in Rank Mode, and Player matches.. No player profiles in Single Player. No player profiles in Vs Mode Absolutely nothing to catch the imagination of millions of noobs that downloaded VF5US. All the content was aimed the hardcore , hard as nails , competitive VF players which probably only accounted for 8 to 12% of the 10 million downloads.

With the game in front of 10 million players it would have been the right time for Sega/RGG to show off:

• Quest Mode
• Kumite Mode
• The VF Announcer
• An Extended Tutorial Mode
• License Mode
• Trainable/Adaptable AI
• Underground Tournaments
• Tournaments for Offline VS Mode
• Single Player Profiles
• Offline VS Player Profiles

Sega could have then made a killing by adding the e-sports modes as 3 separate $99 DLCs

There would be 10,000 viewers watching VF on Twitch TV right now if they had prioritized Single Player and VS modes

I dunno if we'll ever get another shot like that

Well, if Sega/RGG were to offer the Single Player, VS Mode options that I have listed I would gladly pay for them in 3 installments $99 each. I don't care much about the online stuff (never did) . But I assume the people who live just to play online would pay to support the game.

$99 DLC - Quest Mode + Underground Tournaments + All the Customizations + VF 5 Announcer, option to turn off hit sparks, advanced tutorial

$99 DLC - VS Mode 16 man tournament player vs player, Cpu vs Player, Cpu vs Cpu
VS Mode Player Profiles, VS Mode Replays

$99 DLC Single Player: Kumite Mode, Trainable AI, Team Battle Mode, License Mode,
Single Player Profiles, Single Player Replays & Ranks

@MadeManG74 I would buy these 3 DLCs. Maybe not all in one day But I would definitely buy them

For me that would be paying $300 for the Ultimate Virtua Fighter Game. Hell yeah, I'd drop $300 for my dream VF.

That's the thing about us folks who are down with the Single Player experience, we are willing to spend the money If Sega/RGG would realize that, VF would be a better game for everybody

$99 dlc is way too much. I wouldn't pay that even for other fighting games. If I had to pay that amount for dlc, the game better be super good, and not an overhyped, fake, nerfed down fest, like what is out there these days.

But I get your point, especially when it concerns, the single player modes.