Harada talks VF in a Dengeki interview, says a Bamco reboot would never be accepted by the players

Original interview: https://dengekionline.com/articles/28096/

Translation of quote: https://twitter.com/gosokkyu/status/1234978212033089537

Please don't derail this thread with dumb Tekken comparisons like last time. Personally, between no VF6 ever and a reboot by them, I'd take the reboot.

 

I'd take no more VF.

I would rather see the series gone on a very high note ( VF5FS is just amazing) than see Namco handling it.

Besides, AM2 is alive and kicking... So there's that.

 

Yes it shouldn't be Namco's job to revive VF.

Thats just so weird to say.

 

Yawn.....

 

Naw dude., VF doesn't need a reboot.

1. VF5FS still has strong active communities all around the world. PPL are still playing
VF5FS on last gen with no sign of slowing down.

2. There really is no need to compare VF to Tekken. Because everybody knows, that
Tekken has always been a wannabe VF. It has never caught up to VF's beauty, grace,
and style. Even on last gen VF puts Tekken's entire presentation to shame

3. The VF community would rather have a complete port of VF5FS to current gen and next
gen, rather than to have Harada give us a Tekken-lite disguised as a VF6.

4. A game that is Virtua Fighter in name only is not Virtua Fighter. If you want Harada
to produce a new game maybe you should hold out for Tekken 8

Dude, this community is not that desperate for another VF. Primarily because the current version of VF is a FN masterpiece And it looks phenomenal on a 4k screen
We really don't need to version hop just for the sake of version hopping and being able to claim that we have a new game

Also I hear the Tekken 7 hype train is starting to slow down. I hear the online traffic has fallen off dramatically (and that's all Tekken 7 has is online). I'm not saying that you can't get matches regularly, its just not like it was in 2019. Youtube streams are slowing down, Twitch streams are slowing down, the whole thing is winding down

Now we wouldn't mind Harada being a silent financial partner (with no creative say in VF). If he wants to fund a port of VF5FS or VF6 as a financial partner , we'll take the money

Tomonobu Itagki puts it best:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/9f16yd/tekken_is_trash_tomonobu_itagaki/

 

Yep, i'm for a new VF 100%, but only if it's the same feeling and as good as the old ones.

And Tekken 7 starts to die because the online got worse since Season 3, and the netcode is terrible.

 

Even a slight VF5: FS upgrade will be fine by me.

Harada has good intentions, but the fact is that AM2 know VF better than anyone else.

 

Its tho. There are soooo many things wrong witg Tekken that it is soo ridiculous. And the fact that people just laps it up is mind boggling. Dude Tekken made people pay for FRAME DATA.... FRAME DATA bruh... Something offered for free in other fgs....

 

Man...GIVE US THE JAPANESE ARCADE VERSION OF FS!

 

I know petition won't be bring VF6, but I think could convince SEGA to bring VF5FS to current gen.

 

Lol! I'm not that desperate.

 

Outside of VF, Sega has neglected their fighting games in the West for the past decade. Dengeki Bunko was sent to die when they localized the vanilla version while Ignition was almost simultaneously releasing in Japan. Studio Saisanzen had to localize the arcade version of Blade Arcus because Sega has no intentions of doing anything with the existing console ports. When the revision (Rebellion) came out, again they just released it in Japan and swept it under the rug.

Putting AM2 aside, this goes beyond VF or fighting games, Sega made Yakuza and PSO2 fans beg for years to even get some games localized. At this point, I rather see their IPs rebooted/being put to use by other parties than being at their mercy because modern Sega is just terrible.

 

Well I don't understand how awful modern SEGA is and why the hate ?

Just like any corporate out there, they need to have an assured profit outta their products. They have all the right to assess the market and choose the best time to release their games. In fact, if you took Yakuza as an example , it basically shows everything. They refrained from putting on Yakuza when the market was dead for it... Waiting until Yakuza 0 seemed to be a soft relaunch for the west and then they succeeded.

Honestly, it's not the best time for VF6 to be released right now. It's the end of a console cycle... Everybody is hyped about The Last of Us 2 and the new consoles and are busy fighting their console wars and again they might not risk and do it early next gen.

I know there is market and a fanbase for VF, choosing the right time to do it is key.

 

Jotamide I see your points, and they're well taken. But if some 3rd party takes VF and produces something that is VF only in name whats the point? You still don't have a new VF.

The question is: outside of AM2 who could be really trusted to do the IP justice? Team Ninja did an plausible job with VF characters in DOA., so if I would be looking at anybody it would be Team Ninja

Barring no other reputable game developer, I say just leave VF alone. Its a good game as is (really good)

And even if we get a brand new game that is a legitimate VF its not going to bring that many new players to the fighting game genre there are just too many other grindy games that ppl are playing that take hours and hours and hours. I won't even get into all of the mobile game bull$hit that's out there (e.g. clash of clans, candy crush etc). Almost any new game in 2020 is designed to squeeze and grind and drill hours and hours out the player in hopes of the player spending money on micro-transactions. Its only a small dedicated fanbase that would ignore all of the AAA games coming out just to play Virtua Fighter 6.

So really just consider the context that you're asking for a new VF6 in. The big gaming companies are making millions of dollars in micro-transactions and dlc, and games as a service models. That's all the shareholders care about is money, money,money. So a fighting game in the ilk of a Virtua Fighter is typically seen as a losing proposition for the shareholders and the greedy

At this point I'm happy we have VF5FS on the consoles we have it on. Fortunately a version of it is in this current gen consoles by way of Yakuza 6 and Judgment. That might be all we'll ever be able to get

You want to play more VF, pick a day out of the week, or month and sponsor an online room. Support other ppl's rooms. Organize tourneys in your area

 

It's been like 10 years since VF5FS, AM2 is not the same studio it was 10 years ago even less the studio that made VF in the 90s or VF4 in the early 2000s.
yeah there are still a few members from the old days but those are just a few.
What's wrong with Harada directing a new VF at Namco? I'm pretty sure he has enough respect for the series to make a decent job.
Console features might end up being a bit lacking like Tekken 7 but either way that's the case for most VF console releases.
As long as the game is still true to VF mechanically it doesn't matter who made it.
(If any changes were to be made tho, i would really appreciate if inputs were heavily simplified also no streamlined movesets like FS)

 

I wouldn't trust anyone especially SEGA and that also goes for AM2.
It doesn't matter who makes the thing if it's good it's good.