Just one Ranked Match a day can feed a starving Tekken troll.

Anyone can beat anyone in VF.

Yes, but it's still imbalanced asf, and not for the reasons you find on tier lists. Balancing a fighter comes down to way more than singular, highly situational moves or properties, like a character who has 1 move that always scores a hit on evades.... Yeah, that's a nice perk, but by no means should it set that char apart from all others as a supreme build.

But when you take a character like Jacky Bryant, who is fast enough to counter 80% of the moves on 70% of the characters in the game, you develop a core issue. When you take someone like (my own personal favorite, let that sink in) Lei-Fei, who telegraphs 80% of his moves, leaving him savagely vulnerable to counters of ANY kind. Who has 60-70% linear strikes, and extremely limited Low options from neutral stances, you develop a problem. Now I can use Lei-Fei, hence my using him, lol. However, it's not without it's BS you just have to accept.


For example, in a fight with someone using Goh Hinogami, we were both close range, standing guard. I acted first because I knew he would hold until I gave him a solid opening. I hit Down K+G. Lei-Fei all but kisses his own knee (well below Goh's waistline), swinging his leg around for a sweeping kick.

Goh reacts (fair enough), by throwing a over-arching Mid punch from standing position. I shit you not, his fist never made contact with Lei-Fei's back. There was another fists length between us, whilst my heel was all but at it's mark, and can you guess what happened? Just guess, it's not that hard. Goh somehow scored damage and my trip was negated.

IMBALANCE.

I'll say it again for the cheap seats:

A good fighter finds a balance between unique characters, and universal playability.

When you take the "Every character is 100% unique and realistic." idea too extremes, you will end up with a basic Arcade Brawler with sub-par sales.

The Advantage system is folly and adds to the imbalance, because some characters have acceptable advantage, most of the time, whilst others are forced into predictable command strings in order to have decent Advnatage.

IMBALANCE.

The Physics engine is also sub-par (My Goh vs Lei-Fei example). When you compare it to a game like Tekken, where I can throw a certain punch with a character and I hunch just enough that your punch sails right passed my cheek, over the shoulder, and my punch sinks into your rib cage. Not always fortuitous,, but it's a SMOOTH physics engine. No BS.

IMBALANCE.

But, this is what happens when you make a title for a franchise that doesn't historically sell well. (You get a really fun Brawler anyone can pick up and crouch-punch their way to fame on)

5 & FS combined couldn't scratch the 1 mil mark, and with Arcades dying.... Well, it was a fun ride. Let's hope they figure out a well-made, generously funded fighter makes money, and 6 is a half-decent serious fighter.

Research Zonenron Lei Fei and after that please delete all the above.

Don’t make us talk about bears, raptors, pandas, and the original Kardashian’s (Mishimas).

Better yet, why don't you research why Virtua Fighter has failed so miserably as a franchise, Timmy. Because no one seems to be buying the games. It's known as a classic oddity in the Fighter community. A place where mediocre Fighter players have been finding a home since Tekken's release.

Basic, tragically simplistic 3 button layouts create comboing and commands so easy a child can use them. Combine that with a shitty physics engine, and imbalanced characters, you get a deceptively basic and shitty game. (Forgot to mention the CHEESIEST characters and dialogue of all time, in any fighter. Also the lack of a story as of late. All hurt sales. And sales don't lie. They reflect how the genre embraces a game.)

But don't get me wrong, if I were introducing a friend to Fighters, I would suggest VF as the perfect place to start. It's simplistic to a fault, but still has the very basic functions you'd expect any Fighter made after 2002 to have, like step evades, grapples, deflects, guard breaks, etc. It's a great brawler to teach anyone the transferable skills required to graduate to a title like Tekken, where 10-12 hit combos are a very real thing, and you have to hit the corresponding button for every limb thrown in said combo. Just a totally different skill level.

And I would whop that ass with Roger, Kuma, Panda, or Mokujin. lol

Any of those characters are less cheesy than El Blaze, Jacky Bryant, 'The Brad', or Lion. rofl.
They even have better story lines.

I'd perfect you with half-naked, diaper Heihachi every time. XD

The troll level here is so damn high. You need to work on your game though. You’re aren’t supposed to write an essay, you’re supposed to provoke essays I’m reponse to your hilarious comments.

Um excuse me. He is called "THE BRAD SHOW"!! Get that shit corrected!!

This is true. And you will get one from ole Timmy-buttfuck.

Oh and another thing, I would ass rape you with King.

Just for posterity since some of these comments about the strong characters are popular thoughts, I’ll give my 2cents.

Jacky is strong because he gets a lot of damage from CH’s, and he can control the pace of the match if you don’t know where or how to interrupt his strings. If you know how to not get CH, jacky isn’t scary anymore. The things is it is very hard to play against him without getting ch. it’s a very high skill ceiling to fight against him and not get CH. but if you can, he’s not that strong. His combos are also prone to dropping.

Akira just has answers to everything and GB is super strong in FS because fuzzy guard is so strong. He requires a lot from the player though so it’s not easy to use him. If you can get a handle on him though, he has no easy answers to his offense. All you have is evade and that isn’t a safe bet against a good Akira player.

This is all coming from my bottom tier Eileen perspective.

FYI: If I was making my own tier list from my experiences playing people and ignoring the jp list, I would put Eileen in the top tier category. In the lowest of the s tiers. Between A & S

I bet you any money he’s Canadian?!
Welcome to Dark Souls..

You're the only person who said he's 'scary', I just said he is fast. When you know how to use that speed, and have good reflexes, he is dangerous. When I use him, the second your sprite flinches, you get tagged in the face. Very few exceptions there.

I remember when they just threw Jacky in DOA 5, and the players were like, "WTAF are you doing right now?! "

Classic.


EDIT: Also, when dealing with Virtua Fighter, I can completely understand how fact stating could be confused with trolling. The line is paper-thin.

Wow that post was VF poetry Myke! So well written and informative and answering and addressing every single point brought up. I'm gonna probably read it a few more times and soak in the genius of it all. Lol