Moved: The Official "Free Shang" thread

LOL can't argue back cuz banned. Way to win @BLACKSTAR . When u can't win just ban. GG

 

hold on hold on hold on hold oOoon.......shang is banned? how!? I mean Ive seen in the past shit he's done and yeah sure ban away, but this time....holy shit man, I think this is the first time im gonna call power abuse. are we getting a little TOO sensitive?

is citrus really gonna have his childhood ruined cause of shang's post? the "insult" was basically "you dont know how to read!" not even a curse word was there. Really? a ban over THAT? I was reading this nice threrad and people were having good discussions and all of a sudden i read shang was banned, then i was like "wtf how? what? it couldn't be because of that MILD citrus burn....where was warning 2?!

anyway, i dont usually butt in much, but maaaaaaaan, this time was a huge WTF. how come thius dude jason ( http://virtuafighter.com/threads/vf-arena.20024/page-23 ) doesnt get a ban and shang does for THIS? im just curious.

and no, im not here defending shang cause ive known him since forever, he deserves some of his bans...but THIS? ....

just saying.

 

@Sudden_Death the power of hate compels @BLACKSTAR . Goooooood. Goooodd.

 

Shang banned? WTF?

 

Normally I don't get involved in these squabbles but this ban kind of has me like WTF. I know @Shang has been labeled as the bad guy slash trouble maker for years now, but I don't think this is the case here.

While his choice of words are usually not always the best I kind of feel this ban was a bit personal for various reasons. I say that because I've seen tons and tons of people post some seriously foul shit on these boards towards other and not get banned. Due to them being new or not labeled as a trouble maker often we just look the other way. I can bet my whole paycheck if I attacked someone on here today I would not be banned. Why? Because it goes against the grain of who I am and is something I just wouldn't do. So it would be just swept under the rug as Rodney is just probably having a bad day.

Words can definitely hurt especially when read over the internet and you can't convey the context in which the words were implied, but over the years I've noticed that everyone is just so damn sensitive. We always want to talk bold and big, but when someone comes along and talks bigger it becomes offensive. I'm not saying @Shang is right for his constant choice of foul words, but I do think this ban was not necessary and could have totally been avoided.

Anyway things can't be changed once they are done and I hope my opinion doesn't offend anyone. But hopefully in the future there can be a little bit of discussion prior to anyone getting ban including myself.

 

@BLACKSTAR, look here bottom tier black player, grow some balls of your own bro! & @akai what say U!?

 

ok, i think the issue is why the warning over a petty argument which was really not that insulting. this is a small ass community already, there's really nothing much to police. as for WHO is the one banning, its just a matter of who has a faster trigger warning button:

mod #1 = gave 50 warnings to user 01
mod #2 = gave 5 warnings to user 01
mod #3 = gave 16 warning to user 02
mod #4 = gave 5 warnings to user 01

# of warnings needed to a ban = 60

mod #1 gave the most warnings to user 01
mod #1 is practically responsable for his ban

sadly we dont know know which mod issues the most warnings......

 

If bstar was banning out of spite then @steelbaz would be banned by now. Some people are just not worth banning. Current mods are a step up from akai days that was really horrid. This community is absurdly small, please unban shang to please your 5 regular users in VFDC.

 

This is odd, I don't see Shang unbanned yet. Surely you jest @BLACKSTAR?

 

If a staffer has access to warning features and functions they should be able to see the cumulative warnings and would know the next warning they gave would result in a ban, either that or they are an incompetent staffer that doesn't look at the logs. You can give pm warnings to avoid hard bans from cumulative points or warnings in a thread without giving official ban points it's a choice, but if you choose to give ban points and can clearly see a user has enough that your warning will be sufficient to ban him, it is effectively you who has banned that user. At a site i'm staffed at we have access to user ban and warning logs, internal notes, we've contacted the police, have a lawyer on the staff, and also can undo bans easily at our own discretion. We are also able to place users on national lists that register their ip's and personal information on permanent government/official anti spam lists, but are only to use those bans in certain instances.

You can't really make the excuse that a certain staffer did not ban someone when it's clear that another warning would cause a ban and the staffer was the one that gave the ban inducing warning. The only way would be if there was no way to see a log of warnings issued by staff, which has never been the case anywhere I am or have been staff.

 

Hi guys! Shang loves you! all! MmMmmmMMMmmmmm can we get a FT 10! shang vs bstar baby!

 

#FREESHANG

 

So you all know I would probably be the last person to chime in here, but @BLACKSTAR makes a good point about us needing to tell each other to chill out. Policing our own behavior is a good idea, but without the knowledge of how close someone is to getting banned, we actually can't do a very good job of that. I think people would have told Shang to chill out if we all knew how close to the edge he actually was. What if our system was

If our warning system was transparent, as in you could see what each other's warning status is, then I think this point would be moot. Everyone in the community would have more sense of ownership when someone is banned, and it wouldn't bring the backlash that comes now.

If we are voting, I vote for Shang being back and institution of transparent warnings along with proximity to ban, how long the ban would be, and how long they need to chill out for. The code that manages all this could just have it show up on our profile like our forum points used to. There could even be various titles associated with how well-behaved people are. It'd be like real time feedback for the whole site to see "oh damn that dude is about to get banned. Chill the F out son."

 

@steelbaz pwned the mods so badly, that they won't even respond. They're raging, thinking of a new excuse to keep Shang banned.

The peeps have spoken.

 

#FREESHANG