VF5:FS Defensive Technique Compendium

I will comment on this thread just to say that it's refreshing to see some actual content here once in a while instead of just online stuff. Well done.

I'll also take a free like, if you'd please. Oh I need to post some tech? Uhh, evade canceling is good, use it, 2_8~66~P+G. Yeah.

 

@Myke
I think, as you said, not including the throw escape techniques, only the (actual) defensive techniques in the new def tech section would work best as you're not making already existing sections of the wiki redundant.

You can make the new def tech section just like this guide with its new info and include all the techs that are already on the wiki with links. Also include a link to the "throw escape techniques" section. For example (using my format as a placeholder for stuff):

Defensive techniques
intro - blah blah blah...
...
also see:
Throw escape techniques (smaller title hyperlinking to the throw escape section already on the wiki)

Techs:
_____________________
fuzzy guard...blah
_____________________
crouch dash fuzzy guard..blah
_____________________
struggling out of staggers - link to section where it is explained..
__________
etc.

And the existing sections can just be added to with new info this guide has.

Alternatively, you can link the existing tech sections, leave them as they are, and i add the supplementary info under the same place in the guide as the linked existing section:

_________________
Struggling after knockdown - link

(supplementary info)
_________________

But that will mean having to look at 2 different pages to get the full info.

I reckon what you said would be the best course of action.

BTW I really like the idea of using pictures to illustrate the techniques and information regarding them as done in the throw escape page. I do have an elgato capture card (though i don't know how to work it, its my brother's and he doesn't even use it) and I may be able to make pictures (and even videos like yours for the side fuzzy section) to add to this guide and make it similar to that page only ofc for defensive techs. I shall get on to that soon.

Sorry I'm so late to replying, I was at college earlier and had about 10mins to reply so I just left a like.


EDIT:

Im sooo sorry I forgot to like this! Fixed. I really appreciate your kind words


EDIT2:

I missed this too! Fixed

We run on a free like policy in this thread y'see (at least I do )
Actually its just because I really appreciate everyone's contributions and comments.

 

Since I just linked this thread for someone I read it a bit again myself and noticed an error in ECD. You don't crouch throws on frame 11.
Both 2G and CD duck under high attacks immediately but not throws, hence why you can't fuzzy after -5. These same rules apply to CD out of evade cancel.

 

Wouahou,great work! Congratulations...i m very newbie on fighting games....just childly questions sorry: on match against cpu: on défense( guard or hit) how to know if we are on -2 on-6 or -8 etc or positive without learn all frame attacks of all characters...possible? when i attack and it's hit or guard i know frames davantage and désavantage...but on défense? Sorry

 

You'll need to learn those things. It might seem daunting at first but you'll pick it up if you play enough and study the frames from here you can get a decent hold of how the frames work.

To make it easier, break it down by character, especially the ones that give you the most trouble and your own. Also break it down by how much + or - on block. Go to the provided link and pick a character, and you can arrange the categories by clicking on the wanted bit of info. So if you want to learn guard frames, click "GRD" and the page will reformat (refer to attached picture).

 

Hey Myke. It's a little off the subject but where is the forum for attacks that can crush mids?

 

To my recollection there is no such thread that compiles all of these attacks, but there are random posts in the individual dojo sections and some info in the character wikis (i.e. Jeffrey section, match-ups page).

Would be a cool list to make but very character/ mid dependent.

 

I've watched the vid on attack levels. But its all in Japanese. There was a part at the end where Akira was demonstrating using his shoulder to crush a mid but i couldnt read the words on the screen.

 

There was a translation of it at some point but I forget where. It's buried somewhere in the dojo threads. The mid crushing moves are generally rare, stance, specific mid, and space-dependent. Like 2k for lion, shun, and Eileen goes under mids under specific circumstances.

 

Not those. I was talking about mids that can crush other mids like Aoi's 2_3 P and Akira and Goh's shoulder.

 

For fuzzy, crouch fuzzy, hard to use on match...and often i miss...middle attack and i lose lot of life...

 

Thanks. On match up i have problèms against Eileen she is very quick...problems against jean and lei fei to stop their strings...advices please?

 

Pratice, training, and learn the matchups.

Maybe you can also ask some advices for your character.

And of course there is everything you need to know about the game on VFDC or YouTube.

Lei-Fei is not a character that you can 2P much, you have to know the matchup. Fast long range mediums and lows are good moves against him.

Jean is more like VF basic, nothing crazy when you will know this character more.

Same for Eileen, she has good strings, but she's not too hard to dojo. Learn her stance moves and you'll be fine.

 

Thanks, i play van. Concretly How to learn match up?how do i do concretly on dojo??

 

You can watch replays, you can change a lot of settings in the dojo, learn the frame data, learn the punishes, watch videos, ...

 

Sonic gave some good advice on Eileen generally. I could give you more specific advice about her but I'd need to know more about what it is in the matchup that is giving you trouble.

 

If we're gonna talk about character specific match-ups, I think that would be best posted in a Vanessa vs. thread, so that any information posted there can be easily accessed by people looking for that specific information.

Post it here!

 

Sorry i havent seen this thread...